Topic: Va Tech payment

[Mako]

wvu is half the program tech is.

Ding, ding, ding.  We have a winner. :mad:

[marcbuff]

sure Mako , thats why WVU leads the series 23-13-1 , won 2 of the last three and vpi has not scored an offensive td in three years against WVU, thats why WVU was in the Elite 8 while vpi hired a reject from USF as coach, and why WVU beat vpi in EVERY  other sport in 03-04.  :o

Like I said Mako- Its the Toledo Thugs Thread for you isn't it? Just keep it going. :grin:

[Anonymous]

VA Tech was not even a program before the Big East took them, I'd be interested to see what WVU's record against them is since they joined teh Big East?

[dixie10]

Persons associated with VPI are a class head and shoulders above wpu. Maybe it is because they feel secure that they can beat us as to where wpu does not? I don't know, but I'm sure we will have every available opportunity to pay back any miss givens to wpu fans during our 4-3, cause there isn't any way those sucks from the agriculture college will beat us!

  All yeah, what is wpu VPI record since VPI joined the Big East.  I think it will look something like 8-5 VPI, but I'm only guessing.

[81MU]

I believe the VT - WVU record the last 15 years is VT 11 - WPU 4 .  Ahh, that might have more to do with Marcbuffs indignation for those "traitors" that are looking at WPeeU in the rear view mirror.  VT has been ranked in the top 25 final season poll 10 of the last 12 years , WPeeU Twice .


I've heard  Pruett and now Snyder both say at Big Green functions that VT is a program that shows you can grow from relative obscurity and flourish on a national level.  They are a program to emulate, it doesn't mean they aren't subject to the same adolescent problems plaguing many schools in regards to off-field incidents.


When Marcbuff starts condeming Adam LeSnort, Pool stick Jones, Frank Young etc., etc.,  then he will have some credibility. None of those guys missed a minutes playing time for Rich Rod or Beilein. Adam LeSnort was busted for Pot in Tyler County about the same time as Marcus Vick. Vick's arrest was played out in the papers, LeSnorts drug deal was suppressed until Landon uncovered it and reported it in the Daily Mail after the "slap on the wrist sentencing".  


Marshall needs to develope solid relationships with some teams that are geographically close. Travel costs will eat our budget up over the next decade.  3 hours from Huntington will get you to only 2 perenial top 25 programs Ohio St and VT.  Hopefully, Snyder will help with more Ohio St games and we have 4 more with VT.  I'm hoping it grows into a nice regional rivalry.

WPeeU lost the Penn St rivalry when PSU jumped to the Big 10, now they are losing VT. Marshall may be able to fill a void.

[carolinaherdfan]

81MU, that is an excellent post.

Carolina,

 :x  :x

[z13629]

I feel very secure that WVU will beat MU.   And Dixie if you are so confident that MU will beat WVU how much are you willing to wager on it?

Just a reminder that the only reason VPI is in the ACC is because the gov of VA made it happen, not because they are some stellar university.  The ACC was so intent on expanding that they took a university they didn't originally want, otherwise they would still be in the Big East.  VPI conducted themselves poorly through the whole process.  While they were bemoaning the expansion and making public declarations against it, they were behind the scenes on their knees begging to get included.  That's not to say any other school in the Big East wouldn't have jumped at the opportunity to join the ACC (case in point - BC).  But in the long view of things, no one will remember how they went about it, only that they are in it.  I loved the fact that the first year in it, they won it.  

I do find it interesting though that herd fans feel a need to use VPI as some kind of proxy in their belittlement of WVU.

[2xBison]

well, we're confident that we'll win our share as well.  wvu really doesn't strike fear into anyone in the college fb world, they're a good solid program but nothing to be scared of.

you fools have set the bar so high in terms of your expectations (basically that you can't ever lose to MU), that we really only need to win 1 of 7.  we'll still get a laugh.  i'm sure we'll win more than that though.

[marcbuff]

In the last two years, when it counts its WVU 2 vpi 1. WVU leads the series 23-13-1.Check the other sports too and you will see WVU has dominated vpi. In the 2002/2003 school year WVU beat vpi in EVERY SPORT in EVERY game played between them.Don't beleive me then go look it up.Ive never denied WVU players have had their incidences too. Geez, I post on WVU boards, I know what they do. I also know what MU players have done too. I don't like it but I know WVU and MU are NO WHERE near vpi, FSU or Miami when it comes to criminal and unethical behavior. No school is perfect with 4.0 choir boys playing.
I agree we need regional games.I would love to play Louisville, UCINN, Ohio ST, Kentucky, Pitt and even Ohio U. But not a 5 for 1 like we gave vpi. I would not even blame Marcum for a 2 for 1 with vpi but NEVER 5 for 1 as it turned out.
Like I said, you guys want to keep this going like the Toledo Thugs Thread don't you?

[biggreenthunder]

Anybody ACTUALLY feel like discussing the original question instead of debating WVU vs. Va Tech?

I'd like to know the payouts if anybody has that info.

[carolinaherdfan]

Marcbuff, approx. 1 out of every 4 posts in this thread is yours!   :o

Best Wishes,

Carolina,

 :x

[marcbuff]

you guys want to keep it going. Toledo Thugs I tell you :o

[dixie10]

I don't bet money, but I'll bet your pride that wpu loses at least 5!  But anyway, I think nationally recognition and fan appreciation comes from our games at VT, wpu, well need I say more than that has already been posted.

WPU thugs I'm telling you!

[81MU]

Marcbuff wrote :

"In the last two years, when it counts its WVU 2 vpi 1. "

(I guess you don't have your math certificate in Florida)


Marcbuff , Why doesn't 2004 count when VT swept WpeeU in B-ball and exposed them as ranked frauds in Fball ?  The series is 28-21-1 advantage WpeeU in Fball but as I already posted  in the last 15 years "when it counted" VT is 11-4.


For the record : I have no idea what the financial terms of the VT-MU series but do know they were separate deals 2-0 and 2-1.

I do know WPeeU fans are a miserable lot.  Leftover least, losing bowls,  ( I should clarify losing bowl tie-ins), a future of scintillating games with USF, Uconn, Cinci, Rutgers,  plus a steady diet of Villanova, Buffalo, Wofford,  YUCK. Instead of welcoming an interesting intra-state game with Marshall they piss and moan about the Governor forcing them to play.  WPeeU is like a black hole of negativism right now and I resent Marcbuff regurgitating same on this a Marshall forum. His constant obscession with VT is worn and tiresome - leave it on Vermons' board, PLEASE .

[2xBison]

:mad:  :mad:  :mad:  :mad:

mu81 nails it.  now beat it buff, go see your boys on vermins board.

[Mako]

I do know WPeeU fans are a miserable lot. Leftover least, losing bowls, ( I should clarify losing bowl tie-ins), a future of scintillating games with USF, Uconn, Cinci, Rutgers, plus a steady diet of Villanova, Buffalo, Wofford, YUCK. Instead of welcoming an interesting intra-state game with Marshall they piss and moan about the Governor forcing them to play. WPeeU is like a black hole of negativism right now and I resent Marcbuff regurgitating same on this a Marshall forum. His constant obscession with VT is worn and tiresome - leave it on Vermons' board, PLEASE.

Ding, ding, ding.  We have winner #2.  :mad:

[marcbuff]

I would never have responded to this thread if not for Mako calling me in it. Then you guys kept it up or I would have moved on long ago.
As for WVUs schedules, they would have had a major boost if the gov had not interfered. The BE Conference told their schools to upgrade and WVU was trying to do just that.Word is Pastilong had a revolving series with Penn St and Va Tech worked out until Manchin got involved. When Manchin was told of this the Gov retorted to WVU officials to drop Buffalo. Personally, I am for WVU/MU playing for all the same reasons as the Gov and this board. As for Wofford, UCF backed out. Villanova, Ball ST and Buffalo should be bought out , I hope its not too late to get better teams. Florida ST and Notre Dame are being added to WVUs schedule also.
However, you guys should worry about Marshall and leave this thread die.2007 , we have Miami of Florida, Wisconsin and WVU added to a solid CUSA schedule. Improving facilities, recruiting, getting more season tickets sold, pushing the Big Green Membership and making a real effort in baseball should be more important topics than my feelings about vpi or what it is said on Vernons board shouldn't they?

[W0lfman]

Word is Pastilong had a revolving series with Penn St and Va Tech worked out until Manchin got involved.

I dont believe for one minute Penn St was interested in a revolving series with wvu thats why you saw them sign a 2 fer 1 with Temple recently.  Also, why are earfans still wanting to play VT after they put the screws to your program?  All we heard about was how MU didnt live up to some phantom contract and until its resolved no games or negotiations.  Why the double standard here?  Could it be just an excuse because the mighty ears are afraid to lose to lil ole Marshall?  We know its not about good faith that you guys mention all the time...negotiating with VT after what they've done to your program  proves that.

[2xBison]

alright, since it's slow time of year let's do this.  you really need to get off of vernon's board, that place is full of BS.  if you all had something worth a %^&* up there, you wouldn't have to continuously lie about everything.  you really show your true colors when you repeat their spew.

As for WVUs schedules, they would have had a major boost if the gov had not interfered. The BE Conference told their schools to upgrade and WVU was trying to do just that.  Word is Pastilong had a revolving series with Penn St and Va Tech worked out until Manchin got involved.

uh yeah, PSU dropped uspam a decade and a half ago and isn't even interested in playing wvu on a 2-1 basis.  they chose temple so they could go to philly and entertain their almuni instead of drunken couch burners.  and if you haven't noticed, va tech is moving on too.  leaving wvu behind just like PSU did years ago.  just over a year ago, wvu and tech said rather ambiguously that they'd like to play again, but were going to have to see if it could be worked out.

here are your future schedules.  MU took the last opening in 06 and 07...so who's spot did we take PSU's or VTch's?  can't be both. and really, buffalo, villanova and ball state have to be a lower cost buyouts when compared to the profitable series with either PSU or Tech..fast eddie can't do it?

I am posting your future schedules showing openings past 2007.

the WV taxpayer series with FSU needs to be added in the later years, but wvu has tons of openings........I'm shocked they haven't gone ahead and booked the tech or PSU series in the later years since MU has screwed it for them in 06 and 07.  where are the games with psu and tech buff??  where???  they still need to upgrade schedules....sure the taxpayers got you FSU...the Big East may get you a series with Notre Dame....the governor got you a series with Marshall.......meanwhile fast Eddie gets you buffalo, ball state, wofford and villanova twice

2006 (7 BE games; no OOC openings)
9-2 Marshall
TBA Maryland
TBA Buffalo
TBA @ East Carolina
TBA @ Mississippi State

2007 (7 BE games; no OOC openings)
9-1 Ball State
9-8 @ Marshall
TBA @ Maryland
TBA East Carolina
TBA Mississippi State

2008 (7 BE games; 1 OOC opening)
9-13 Marshall
TBA Maryland
TBA Villanova
TBA East Carolina

2009 (7 BE games; 1 OOC opening)
10-3 vs. Marshall (site TBA)
TBA @ Maryland
TBA Villanova
TBA @ East Carolina

2010 (7 BE games; 4 OOC openings, Maryland plus 3?)
9-11 @ Marshall

2011 (7 BE games; 4 OOC openings, Maryland plus 3?)
9-3 Marshall

2012
9-1 Marshall
Maryland

[W0lfman]

they still need to upgrade schedules....sure the taxpayers got you FSU...the Big East may get you a series with Notre Dame....the governor got you a series with Marshall.......meanwhile fast Eddie gets you buffalo, ball state, wofford and villanova twice
 

yee haw... thats hilarious but oh so true!!!

[marcbuff]

Wolfman- LMAO- I asked the WVU board the same thing about wanting to play vpi after what they did and the DOUBLE STANDARD with regard to MU. I said there too I would NEVER play vpi again in ANY sport. Their response was its a big game for fans, sellout, the hate drives it etc......... Go figure

The Penn St/VPI rotating series was discussed over there. Some say its a rumor other informed poster say it was in the works.Just passing on what Ive read. I really don't have a problem with the schedule. Florida has La Tech, Wyoming etc every year too. All of the schools do that. As for Wofford, our high school has two kids playing for them. I am interested in that game regardless.

As far as the stuff on Vernons board, you MODS should be more careful yourselves. On Herdnation there were two post about an OL guy arrested that has NOT been seen anywhere else. I questioned it yesterday and ----Carlos or  Whoever did take it off the board finally. Someone posted a remark alledgedly by Curtis Head is some club in a thread. BOTH found their way to the Smack board over there. You guys go on and on about the couch burnings but post pictures of our people burning a WVU Hat for Goodness sake. Talk about feeding the trolls????????????? Our own MU boards give them all the ammunition they need . Don't blame me for what those guys say when MU posters post those things. Have you EVER seen me post a negative thing about MU, its academics, players or coaches? Maybe Kayos decisions like not hiring D'Antoni or scheduling vpi, which I do understand Kayos point for expenses, but all of us have done that sometime.Maybe a paying premium board to keep some things inhouse would be the answer???????

[marcbuff]

and another thing too Wolfman- Its the off season!!!! Agree with me or not but this thread and the Possible WM & Mary upset thread have the most hits recently, keeping the board going until the players report back  :o

Like I said, this resembles the Toledo %^)#@ Thread on Herd Nation that wouldn't die LOL

[2xBison]

i still want you to explain how there is any conceivable way that wvu had series in the works with PSU and Va tech until the Gov got involved with the MU series.  show me how it could have worked and how the mu deal screwed it.

rumor or not, please explain how it could possibly have nixed both deals.

after you complete that task, explain whey the series haven't been booked in the later years when wvu has room.

you may find there is no such thing as an informed poster over there.

[marcbuff]

2x- Don't be so blind. There are INFORMED posters on EVERY board. There are guys over there who know Pastilong personally, have kids on the team like Herd48 here, Vernon is in constant contact with the coaches, there are Blue Coat Boosters who have access to Hardesty etc........Much of what I read is on the premium board and not supposed to be revealed to the general boards. I think we need a premium board too.
The PSU and VPI series was a series being worked on with those schools in alternate years not BOTH every year. Say PSU in 07, VPI in 08 and 09 then PSU in 10 and 11, as an example.Thats what I read.Yes, it was posted by " Informed" posters.

To give you more insight about informed posters, which I don't claim to be . I do have my sources however. I am a sports writer and Athletic Director so I do have some ways of finding out info. Dan Shoemaker, Im not but I do all right. Remember when the WVU board was convinced the SEC was going to invite WVU to join? many there were convinced it was imminent. I post a lot on Gator Boards too. There are " Informed Posters" there too. One of them works in Jeremy Foley's Office, the AD at UF. I emailed some of those threads after discussing it on the Gator Board with him to show him Im not making it up. He responed several times that there were NO PLANS for SEC Expansion. He gave me good financial reasons why. Now, the SEC did do a site survey at WVU. Why? Very Future plans? I don't know. To make way for for series like Mississippi ST, probably.Fact is, we don't always know whats going on behind closed doors.

You know , all Va Herd asked was how much money would MU get from VPI? I wish he had got a $$$$$$$$$ answer and MAKO had left me out of it. But like I said, it is the off season. Better than threads with 5 Best games, 5 Best Tailgate Receipes, 5 Best Vacation Places Etc........

[Mako]

I brought you into it to prove, once and for all, to everyone on this board, that you are much more of a Chickeneer than a Son of Marshall.