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Offline C-USA DADDY

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William & Mary over MU in opener?
« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2005, 09:16:01 PM »
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  • I'd look for the game to be similar to the Appalachian State and Hofstra games...somewhat competitve early, Herd pulling away...
     

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    « Reply #26 on: June 05, 2005, 09:20:47 PM »
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  • I agree.

    At half, the Tribe should still be within striking distance.  By late in the 3rd, the Herd's size and speed should take over.
     

    Offline carolinaherdfan

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    « Reply #27 on: June 06, 2005, 07:53:48 AM »
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  • You know W & M is a top notch program in 1-AA. they play in a top notch conference. Last year WVU's Gator Bowl team had a struggle during much of the game vs JMU. We do need to take this team very seriously. They deserve our respect. They are no different than we were in days gone by.

    Carolina,


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    « Reply #28 on: June 06, 2005, 09:31:44 AM »
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  • I was at the NC State game when we were 1 AA and almost pulled of the upset.  If it weren't for a very questionable call at the end, we would have won that game.  The Bill and Mary guys will be jacked sky high and ready to play.
     

    Offline billybob

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    « Reply #29 on: June 06, 2005, 10:39:25 AM »
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  • The only way for them to beat us is with big play ability. quick strike offense. They are a team that implores balance. Equal running and throwing. They would also need a tough defense. They gave up nearly 25 points a game last year against 1-aa competition. I don't see this one being close. I am a bill and mary season ticket holder but I simply don't think they will come within twenty points. Lang Campbell was the QB last year and threw for nearly 4000 yards which is something, but he is gone. Michael Potts looks to be the starter and has very limited experience - 17 attempts in his career. While our QB's have less then that they are playing and praticing on a completely defferent level.
     

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    « Reply #30 on: June 08, 2005, 03:01:22 PM »
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  • So they think they are going to smack us. Now I hope Snyder doesn't call the dogs off.

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    PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:15 pm    Reply with quoteBack to top
    Many of the Marshall fans are taking us seriously, but some believe they will blow us out. There's a thread on herdfans.com titled "Will Marshall lose to W&M?". Some are well informed about us and some not. Nice folks on there who helped me with hotel info.

    Of course I've been downplaying our chances, but if Phillips and Potts play well, we should be in this one.


    Come on don't down play it, lets hear what you truly believe.

    http://www.caazone.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=29739
     

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    William & Mary over MU in opener?
    « Reply #31 on: June 08, 2005, 04:09:05 PM »
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  • I think our problem with these types of teams the last few years has been attitude (or lack thereof).  I think our team was to the point sometimes, that they thought all they had to do was show up, get announced over the P.A. system and they would win.   I think with Snyder and the mix of guys on the team, coupled with coming off of a very dissappointing season, that you will see a more workmanlike attitude, and less of a showboating attitude.   When you see a I-AA team give a good I-A team a good game, it always comes down to the attitude of the 2 teams, and not the athletes.    I say our attitude is right this year, and we have players like Bradshaw, Filer, Fitzgerald, Morris, and Albin that run over W&M.  The game is over with by early 3rd quarter, and the attitude and the tone of the team is set for the season.   As herdbluefield said earlier in the post..........let's do our part as fans and set the tone in the stands too!   only 12 weeks away, and i pumped.
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    William & Mary over MU in opener?
    « Reply #32 on: June 08, 2005, 04:25:35 PM »
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  • With our S&C coach this year we will have these kids with their hands on their hips by the end of the 2nd half. If Mike Cochran is as good as advertised then we will be running circles around their kids by the middle of the 3rd qt. And by the 4th they should be cramping up.
     

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    « Reply #33 on: June 08, 2005, 04:45:41 PM »
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  • Tribe4SF I'd never diss a 1-AA school and respect your program for it really is, and that is a nation presence. I think allot of what makes a program is recruiting, but also take note that these are 17 year old kids mostly that are growing into young men. It depends on the coach to transform these youngsters and it appears your coach is doing a whale of a job. I see a good game through out, and hope our players don't take you guys lightly or we'll be in trouble big time. With our youth and truly unproven line, our offence could be ugly! Then again, if Snyder has them clicking, then we could walk through this. I can't wait to meet your fans, hope you tailgate with us on the main lot and have a good time. Of course I hope we win, and win big, but I wish you all a safe trip up and a good experience.
     

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    « Reply #34 on: June 08, 2005, 05:41:39 PM »
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  • Quote from: "Garbanjo"
    Troy owns us. It's a bitter pill to swallow, but our boys did not take care of business................two years in a row.  :|


    We may just get revenge someday down in New Orleans.  Maybe this year.  


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    « Reply #35 on: June 08, 2005, 05:57:53 PM »
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  • Quote from: "biggreenthunder"
    We may just get revenge someday down in New Orleans.  Maybe this year.  


     :-P


    As much as I hate to say it. Troy is still only the 2nd best team in the Sun Belt. The "I can't win a game OOC" N. Texas will mow over their oppts in the SB, including Troy.
     

    Offline Blade

    William & Mary over MU in opener?
    « Reply #36 on: June 09, 2005, 06:25:52 AM »
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  • Man, a lot in this thread!

    First, Troy.  They do not own us.  We have a 3-2 advantage.  This is a team that gives us fits on the defensive side of the ball, just like VT.  We just don't fare well with there style.  HZ is right when he said that NTSU is the kinpin of the SBC.

    Now, W&M.

    Just like Appy State, it's hard for their fans to see the real difference in the two clubs.  This is not your big brother's Marshall.  We've come a long way since dominating I-AA.  Some points that I feel are important to the outcome of the game have been overlooked, imo.

    Amad Bradshaw.  Who is going to stop him?  Forget about stopping him, who's going to catch him?  Behind a talented and experienced OL that averages 322 lbs, AB should run for over 200 yards.

    On defense, we lose our front seven but replace them with 10 lettermen, 5 of them multi-year lettermen.

    Let's not forget that we have had back-to-back record recruiting years.  In 1996, only 3 of 20 recruits were ranked by the major recruiting rags, a 2-star and two 1-stars.  Last year, the lowest ranked player was a 2-star.

    Speed - we have 6 players in offensive skill positions that are faster than any of W&M's defense (unless you can show me a 4.4 corner).

    Jimmy Skinner would be the highest-ranked QB to start for a Marshall football team unless he is beat out by Banard.

    W&M has a good 1-AA ball club.  On any given Saturday, anything can happen.  However, the chance of dominating Marshall in a 10-game series is remote.  The odds of beating the Herd, even with the chinks in the armor, are distant.

    This will be a good test for Marshall.  Final MU 51, W&M 24
     

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    Offline Tribe4SF

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    William & Mary over MU in opener?
    « Reply #37 on: June 10, 2005, 04:15:18 PM »
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  • Busted by a Bison! :( What are you doing on the CAA board? Without any downplay, what you read was genuine. If our QBs play well, I think we'll be in it. Not win it, but in it.

    For Blade, I don't know about Appy State fans, but this is nothing new for us. We play a I-A every year and are well aware of the differences. As I said earlier, team speed and depth are not close. We do, however, have a 4.4 corner (unfortunately, only one).

    Bradshaw presents us with similar problems to the North Carolina game last year. They had two very good running backs who eventually were the difference in that game. The real speed we faced last year was Jerome Mathis of Hampton. I said after the game that he was the fastest player I'd ever seen in person, and the NFL Combine verified it for me.
     

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    « Reply #38 on: June 10, 2005, 04:25:58 PM »
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  • Tribe4SF, that is why we play the games. It is good fun, and competition. It is possible for W&M to defeat MU. It is possible for us to run right through W&M, as well.  We will enjoy engaging you, and your fellow fans in banter here at our forum. You fellows are pretty classy, and are always welcome.

    Carolina,

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    William & Mary over MU in opener?
    « Reply #39 on: June 10, 2005, 05:37:06 PM »
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  • Quote from: "Tribe4SF"
    Busted by a Bison! :( What are you doing on the CAA board?


    I read many boards and post on some. I also read AGS.GOM, its not a crime. Just don't down play or come up short on what you are thinking to make us think you don't have a chance.

    Marshall will have more then 1 threat at RB this year they should have 2 and maybe 3.

    A. Bradshaw the start from last year
    G. Williams a readshirt freshman
    D Newsome a returning power runner
     

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    « Reply #40 on: June 10, 2005, 06:50:25 PM »
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  • OK, HZ! :-D Now I know wherever I am, you'll be looking over my shoulder. :P

    Bradshaw is a seriously good player. I've followed him since high school.
     

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    your team
    « Reply #41 on: June 10, 2005, 07:06:14 PM »
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  • Tribe4SF, you guy's bring your whole team, 'cause we may need to borrow some players to play the game.

    Carolina,

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    Re: your team
    « Reply #42 on: June 10, 2005, 07:24:02 PM »
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  • Quote from: "carolinaherdfan"
    Tribe4SF, you guy's bring your whole team, 'cause we may need to borrow some players to play the game.

    Carolina,

     :smile:


    Uh oh, now it's getting deep. Save your socks 'cause your shoes are lost!  :shock:

    In light of today's news we'll loan you one offensive lineman. :wink:
     

    Offline carolinaherdfan

    keep your socks on
    « Reply #43 on: June 10, 2005, 07:29:38 PM »
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  • This thread was started so early, that I have purchased waders. There in storage, but I know I may need 'em, before this game, or this year has ended.

    Carolina,

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    Offline Tribe4SF

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    « Reply #44 on: June 10, 2005, 07:55:13 PM »
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  • Quote from: "dixie10"
    Tribe4SF I'd never diss a 1-AA school and respect your program for it really is, and that is a nation presence. I think allot of what makes a program is recruiting, but also take note that these are 17 year old kids mostly that are growing into young men. It depends on the coach to transform these youngsters and it appears your coach is doing a whale of a job. I see a good game through out, and hope our players don't take you guys lightly or we'll be in trouble big time. With our youth and truly unproven line, our offence could be ugly! Then again, if Snyder has them clicking, then we could walk through this. I can't wait to meet your fans, hope you tailgate with us on the main lot and have a good time. Of course I hope we win, and win big, but I wish you all a safe trip up and a good experience.


    Thanks, Dixie. Laycock is now the coaching legend at W&M. He and I were teammates there in the 60s and his success has been remarkable. Another great coach is Zbig Kepa, who has been our OC for over twenty years. Laycock coaches the QBs and Kepa the WRs, and he has not gotten enough credit for the historic success of our passing game. We usually have some talent at WR, but more than that they are very disciplined and always exhibit excellent technique.

    Joe Gibbs paid Laycock a very high compliment this spring. When asked about Lang Campbell as a prospect he said: "With QBs from W&M, what you see is usually what you get. There's not much upside because they're all coached up down there."

    How do we get on the main lot? I love rubbing elbows with opposing fans.
     

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    « Reply #45 on: June 10, 2005, 07:57:42 PM »
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  • Quote from: "Tribe4SF"
    OK, HZ! :-D Now I know wherever I am, you'll be looking over my shoulder. :P


    Just remember what you type, so it doesn't come back to bite you. Half of the CAA site doesn't work (for me) anyway. The threads are either all distorted or the 1st one shows and thats it.

    Looking over your shoulder like big brother, no. Reading posts that interests me when I put "Marshall" in and hit search, yes.

    Its amazing how much Marshall is talked about by I-AA schools and we've been gone for almost 10 yrs now. I get tons of threads that consist of Marshall on AGS and CAA.
     

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    « Reply #46 on: June 10, 2005, 08:04:07 PM »
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  • I don't think a day goes by that Marshall isn't mentioned on AGS. Lots of history buffs on there, and if you're talking I-AA history, Marshall is bound to get mentioned.
     

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    « Reply #47 on: June 10, 2005, 08:07:53 PM »
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  • Quote from: "HerdZone"

    Looking over your shoulder like big brother, no. Reading posts that interests me when I put "Marshall" in and hit search, yes.



    Time for a code word! :mrgreen:
     

    Offline HerdZone

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    « Reply #48 on: June 10, 2005, 08:28:49 PM »
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  • Quote from: "Tribe4SF"
    I don't think a day goes by that Marshall isn't mentioned on AGS. Lots of history buffs on there, and if you're talking I-AA history, Marshall is bound to get mentioned.


    OL FU (Furman Fan) has an infactuation with us or something there isn't a week goes by he doesn't either start 1-3 threads about Marshall or say something in a topice thats already going. He says he hates Marshall, I hate WVU too and I don't talk about them unless its to rebute something.

    --Question:Is there a problem with the CAA BOARD or is it just me, its never worked right for me.
     

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    « Reply #49 on: June 10, 2005, 09:57:28 PM »
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  • I've never had any problems with the caazone. Have you joined? Maybe it's an issue with guests only.
     

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