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Offline Olen

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« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2007, 01:58:13 PM »
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    I agree that this needs to be further looked into and it if did indeed happen then appropriate action needs to be taken.  We can not stand by and let someone make racist remarks.  IF this did happen I am outraged!!


    Before we dive head long into beating up on Woody, I think it is important to distinguish that interpreting Woody's statement as representing Woody's personal view is probably inaccurate.  I believe what Woody's statement represents is his perception of the collective community.

    In other words, I believe Woody would support whomever is named coach - but he has reservations (based on what I don't know) that the Marshall Un. community would not be accepting.  I think he is wrong about the Marshall Un. community, but, I do not think Woody is espousing a personal racist viewpoint, but one that he thinks is representative of the Marshall Un. community.
     

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    « Reply #26 on: April 06, 2007, 02:08:29 PM »
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    I agree that this needs to be further looked into and it if did indeed happen then appropriate action needs to be taken.  We can not stand by and let someone make racist remarks.  IF this did happen I am outraged!!


    Before we dive head long into beating up on Woody, I think it is important to distinguish that interpreting Woody's statement as representing Woody's personal view is probably inaccurate.  I believe what Woody's statement represents is his perception of the collective community.

    In other words, I believe Woody would support whomever is named coach - but he has reservations (based on what I don't know) that the Marshall Un. community would not be accepting.  I think he is wrong about the Marshall Un. community, but, I do not think Woody is espousing a personal racist viewpoint, but one that he thinks is representative of the Marshall Un. community.


    No matter what his personal beliefs are is no excuse for making the comment...period...Race should have NEVER been brought into the picture by anyone.  It has no place here.  There is NO excuse for what was said.
     

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    « Reply #27 on: April 06, 2007, 02:11:34 PM »
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  • Olen if he thinks that we'd not accept a black coach, what are his reasons for stating so?  On what basis does he come to that conclusion?  I date a black girl, although she is pretty light skinned. Rarely do I have problems in this area, in fact the only time I have ever had something said to me, I was in the tidewater region of VA.


    There was no reason for the comments, IMO.
     

    Offline marshallmark

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    « Reply #28 on: April 06, 2007, 02:13:27 PM »
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    I agree that this needs to be further looked into and it if did indeed happen then appropriate action needs to be taken.  We can not stand by and let someone make racist remarks.  IF this did happen I am outraged!!


    Before we dive head long into beating up on Woody, I think it is important to distinguish that interpreting Woody's statement as representing Woody's personal view is probably inaccurate.  I believe what Woody's statement represents is his perception of the collective community.

    In other words, I believe Woody would support whomever is named coach - but he has reservations (based on what I don't know) that the Marshall Un. community would not be accepting.  I think he is wrong about the Marshall Un. community, but, I do not think Woody is espousing a personal racist viewpoint, but one that he thinks is representative of the Marshall Un. community.


    No matter what his personal beliefs are is no excuse for making the comment...period...Race should have NEVER been brought into the picture by anyone.  It has no place here.  There is NO excuse for what was said.


    I agree.  Saying Huntington isn't "ready" to accept another black head coach is absolutely no different than saying Alabama wasn't "ready" to accept black students into the universithy.  

    By SAYING Huntington isn't ready, it only furthers racism.  Race should not be a factor in the hiring, firing, accepting, support or evaluation of ANY person, let alone a coach of a team that (this year) was entirely black!
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    Offline Olen

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    « Reply #29 on: April 06, 2007, 02:19:30 PM »
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  • Fellows, I did not state that Woody's perception of Huntington was correct or even appropriate - in fact, I think his perception is largely wrong and wholly inappropriate given the circumstances.  

    What I was attempting to point out is that before Woody gets saddled with the label of "racist", it might be best to understand that he was not espousing his own personal view, but what his perception is of the Marshall Un. community at large.

    There is a distinction to be made, IMO.
     

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    « Reply #30 on: April 06, 2007, 02:22:37 PM »
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  • Stan Howell, former talk show host, was let go for calling Morgantown "The armpit of West Virginia."
     

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    « Reply #31 on: April 06, 2007, 02:23:09 PM »
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    Fellows, I did not state that Woody's perception of Huntington was correct or even appropriate - in fact, I think his perception is largely wrong and wholly inappropriate given the circumstances.  

    What I was attempting to point out is that before Woody gets saddled with the label of "racist", it might be best to understand that he was not espousing his own personal view, but what his perception is of the Marshall Un. community at large.

    There is a distinction to be made, IMO.


    I agree that there is a huge distinction to be made, but NEITHER his personal opinion or his opinion of Huntington should be said on the air.
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    « Reply #32 on: April 06, 2007, 02:23:42 PM »
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    Fellows, I did not state that Woody's perception of Huntington was correct or even appropriate - in fact, I think his perception is largely wrong and wholly inappropriate given the circumstances.  

    What I was attempting to point out is that before Woody gets saddled with the label of "racist", it might be best to understand that he was not espousing his own personal view, but what his perception is of the Marshall Un. community at large.

    There is a distinction to be made, IMO.


    Even if this is his perception and not his personal belief it still makes no difference.  IT SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN SAID IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!
     

    Offline Olen

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    « Reply #33 on: April 06, 2007, 02:24:01 PM »
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    I agree that there is a huge distinction to be made, but NEITHER his personal opinion or his opinion of Huntington should be said on the air.


    100% agreement, my friend.
     

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    « Reply #34 on: April 06, 2007, 02:24:47 PM »
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  • His perception of the area has to come from somewhere, there has to be some basis for his claims.  To just say it without showing examples is just f'ing silly.
     

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    Re: Offensive
    « Reply #35 on: April 06, 2007, 02:24:54 PM »
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    I agree that this needs to be further looked into and it if did indeed happen then appropriate action needs to be taken.  We can not stand by and let someone make racist remarks.  IF this did happen I am outraged!!


    Before we dive head long into beating up on Woody, I think it is important to distinguish that interpreting Woody's statement as representing Woody's personal view is probably inaccurate.  I believe what Woody's statement represents is his perception of the collective community.

    In other words, I believe Woody would support whomever is named coach - but he has reservations (based on what I don't know) that the Marshall Un. community would not be accepting.  I think he is wrong about the Marshall Un. community, but, I do not think Woody is espousing a personal racist viewpoint, but one that he thinks is representative of the Marshall Un. community.


    I think Woody needs to stick to sports and leave the social commentary to others. I am surprised after all of these years associated with Marshall and the surrounding community that he would have that low of an opinion of us.

    I lived out of state for almost three years and during that time had to defend myself and WV from these same stereotypes and perceptions. And now to come home and feel like I have to defend myself again...from one of my own. It's disappointing to say the least.

     

    Offline Olen

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    « Reply #36 on: April 06, 2007, 02:24:55 PM »
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    Even if this is his perception and not his personal belief it still makes no difference.  IT SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN SAID IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!


    No need to "shout" - I've already explained that I agree that he shouldn't have said what he said.  

    Geesh.
     

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    « Reply #37 on: April 06, 2007, 05:42:00 PM »
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  • Woody must have had a brain fart or his sugar was getting low from running out of Twinkies.
     

    Offline herdfan429

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    « Reply #38 on: April 06, 2007, 05:48:28 PM »
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  • I was listening to Woody last week and he said the EXACT opposite.  He sad that he thinks the community would accept a blackcoach etc etc.  He said Freeman wasnt supported b/c he wasnt that successful.  He is just a box of hotair that has NO clue what is going on.
     

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    « Reply #39 on: April 06, 2007, 06:56:14 PM »
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  • So, no one agrees that Woody should be given an opportunity to explain his comments?

    Interesting.

    It reminds me of Beasley Reese commenting on Jimmy "The Greek" Snyder's remarks about black athletes. Reese said that Snyder was correct in what he was saying, but that Snyder, as a white man, had no right to say it.

    Funny that Reese was never asked to explain why Snyder, because he was a white man, did not have the right to speak the truth.
     

    Offline Olen

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    « Reply #40 on: April 06, 2007, 10:27:12 PM »
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    So, no one agrees that Woody should be given an opportunity to explain his comments?

    Interesting.


    Well, Woody had the opportunity today to do just that - he has a two hour platform from which he can pontificate.  The question is:  did Woody take the opportunity to explain his statement?

    From what I heard - no.  But I was only able to listen to about 45 minutes of the show (and not continuous minutes).  

    Anywho - I welcome an "explanation".
     

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    « Reply #41 on: April 06, 2007, 11:55:41 PM »
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  • IMO , Woody has come and gone . I know he's a fan favorite to alot of people but I could do without him , I quit listening to his shows a long time ago . He's right no matter what anybody else thinks , that attitude doesn't cut it anymore.
     

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    « Reply #42 on: April 07, 2007, 12:21:28 AM »
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    Wow!  I've know that I've been away from West Virginia a long time, but are you telling me that West Virginians in general and the Marshall University fan base specifically, will not accept an African-American in an official leadership position?  As a Black Alumnus and contributor, I'm both insulted and incensed if this is the prevailing sentiment.

    So let me get this right.  It's acceptable for African-Americans to donate money and it's fine for Black athletes to comprise the majority of players in the two revenue generating sports, but to serve as a head coach in one of them is intolerable.  If this is the case, I would have more respect for the university if incoming athletes were informed of this unwritten policy during the recruitment process.  At least then, they would have the option not playing where they can't coach.


    Honestly, I would have hoped your treatment while here would dispel any of the "supposed" anti-black sentiment "supposed" to be present.
    Your self-determinism and honor are more important than your immediate life.
     

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    « Reply #43 on: April 07, 2007, 08:47:23 AM »
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  • Honestly?  I could tell you many stories about my experience in growing up in West Virginia.  But, I'll let you in on three.  I attended Bluefield High School at a time when the Fight Song was Dixie and the students waved Confederate flags at sporting events.  It took 3 years and school consolidation to end that practice.  

    My first month on Marshall's campus, I was walking down 16th between 4th and 5th avenue when one of Huntington's finest pulled up beside me.  Rolling down the window on the passenger side of his car, he said "N*****, if it was night time, I'd beat your a$$.  He laughed, rolled up the window and proceeded on his way.  Nice first impression.

    Also, during the initial months of my freshman year, there was plenty of racial tension at the university.  What many forget and what wasn't depicted in the movie was that the night before the plane crash there was a major altercation between white and black students during a flag football game.  What I remember most is watching members of the football team witnessing the aftermath as they left for the airport.  Unfortunately, it took that catastrophe to bury the incident and bring the campus together.

    In spite of these and other instance, I have many, many fond memories of both institutions and have many friends of diverse backgrounds who I'm still in contact with and I plan to offer lifetime support to the university.  I don't believe that there is rampant "anti-Black sentiment among the Herd faithful, I am stunned that the sentiment expressed by Mr. Woodrum was so openly and nonchalantly expressed in the year 2007.
     

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