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The place to talk Marshall University sports! => HerdFans => Topic started by: ZackUSAF82 on April 30, 2013, 05:27:08 PM
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Yikes. You know I'm never one to criticize... ;)... but really... who thought sticking this in at the beginning was a good idea?
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8396/8696332205_732b84a7b4.jpg)
(Looks like a high school pep rally with that press box shack up there.)
When you line them up like that, it really hits you that that's a literal "who's-that?" of FBS schools. We've got our work cut out for us.
We can't sit back as a conference and be content. If we're going to rise up and be the predominant conference of the Go5, and accordingly going to grow in relevance nationally to the point that we can attain TV revenues in the millions rather than the thousands... we're looking up at two conferences, and have another one jockeying with us from the side.
Players and coaches are in a position to say "Just win baby" because that's something over which they have some control. We fans don't... I mean... we don't have that control. And so what we can contribute to the cause has to be in some other vein.
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Only good thing they can say about us is that we have a vision campaign lol. Please let us win a championship this year!
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When I watch that video, I certainly don't get the holier than thou attitude that some have around here. I think we are lucky to be where we are cosidering the investments, the student population, the money, and the history that some of those schools have. Our $30 million Vision Campaign doesn't even measure up to the $46 million that Rice is willing to put into their football stadium that, if they are lucky, 5,000 people gather in on a football Saturday. We haven't done anything at all lately on the field or on the court and what we are currently doing financially does not measure up to what our peer schools are doing. Some of y'all better check yourself and open your eyes. Do something to help, instead of bitch all the time about our "new conference". I've kept my mouth (keyboard) shut for a long time, but it's hard to sit back and see people bitching about our situation yet they provide no real answers to our alleged problems. Hell, do something about it! Start a fundraiser. Start a damn revolution or something against people that don't fund what you want us to be! Where do we get off saying that we are better than these new teams? I don't get it. Hell, these new schools and teams scare me. We don't have the resources that they have. We just wanna bitch and blame Hamrick for everything.
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Very cool. Looking forward to the new setup in CUSA.
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That high school pep rally had 3xs more fans show up at their spring game than we did
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mckayt, hold up... you talk like we're the Houston Astros of FBS... we've been mediocre, not pathetic. And one year or two of success does not vault any given Sun Belt program over ours, even though we've only seen a couple of bowl games in the last 5 years.
And Rice? Rice is a private school in one of the more economically-viable cities in the nation. There's nothing embarrassing about falling short of their fundraising.
But I do agree with you that, as opposed to a month ago when it appeared there was still some reason to think we could escape the downgrade, it's time to talk about what can be done to elevate our conference. And fwiw, I for one have been doing just that.
People who won't admit that we've taken a substantial step backward, who think we should feel great about how blessed we are... those people are going to be the death-knell of this program if they are left unchallenged and able to grow to constitute a majority of Herd Nation... that mindset promotes a contented attitude that we've always ordinarily associated with MAC fans. We have to remember who we are, and not let this stagnant period lull us into expecting less.
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That high school pep rally had 3xs more fans show up at their spring game than we did
Um, I wasn't being critical of Charlotte's program or fans, but rather the decision by someone at CUSA HQ to use that camera shot in a promotional video. Put our fans in front of our press box, it looks good... put fans in front of that shack, and it looks only slightly better than what we had at dear ol' Vinson High.
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That footage was from a soccer game. Look closely. The signs say "College Cup Finalist" and "Charlotte Soccer." Why would that footage of a soccer game be embarrassing? It looks like a very well attended soccer game. Knucklehead.
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Knucklehead?... lol... really?... of all the names you could have called me, you chose "knucklehead?"... I suppose I should thank you... that might be the nicest put-down I've had on this board. ;D
But, ummm... 86... my dear, dear friend...
First, I believe it was your dear, dear friend (and mine, too, of course) 429 who brought up the idea of a football crowd... a review of the evidence, though, shows I didn't say one way or the other myself...
And that's because actually it doesn't matter to the point... ie, that looks like a SHACK up top there... and I know if that was a Marshall shack, I'd be perturbed not only that they were making us look bad, but just as bad, that the producer evidently wasn't paying attention well enough to realize it.
And second, do you really think that in the second or two that they flashed up this clip that anyone would have caught what sport was on display?
I don't, but maybe you do.
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Um, I wasn't being critical of Charlotte's program or fans, but rather the decision by someone at CUSA HQ to use that camera shot in a promotional video. Put our fans in front of our press box, it looks good... put fans in front of that shack, and it looks only slightly better than what we had at dear ol' Vinson High.
That "Shack" you speak of is their 4,000 seat soccer stadium.....
(http://image.cdnllnwnl.xosnetwork.com/pics32/640/MM/MMUYBPMKKZMIHJM.20111128030054.jpg)
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....That "Shack" also hosts their media during their outdoor track events....
(http://images.dyestat.com/dyestatcal/images/2008/June/24%20USATF%20Yth%20Natls/UNC-CharlTrk.jpg)
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That 4000 seat soccer stadium looks great.
But... as much as you're straining to not admit it... using that shot looks like Charlotte has a high school press box.
Knucklehead.
hehe
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Looks like a really nice soccer complex to me, the "hut" is definitely different but I think it makes it look unique. While I'm still not thrilled about this new league I've just learned to accept this is where we will be for now and I'm looking forward to facing some new competition in the next few years. If we start winning consistently in football and if "Double T" can somehow (doubtful) right the ship in basketball...and then you add in our facility upgrades we could be positioned very nicely for the next round of realignment if/when it happens. Until then, I really don't think there's too much else we can do other than continuing to support the Herd as much as each of us can afford...Lord knows we need every penny.
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Hey Stu....Did you ever see the baseball stadium? Guess you aren't impressed with that either?....
(http://publicrelations.uncc.edu/sites/publicrelations.uncc.edu/files/media/campus_large/HayesStadiumOct2007.jpg?1297869006)
(http://pics4.city-data.com/cpicv/vfiles31226.jpg)
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/p480x480/543699_10151544297493288_1738221073_n.jpg)
(http://www.baseballpros.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/uncc2.jpg)
(http://image.cdnllnwnl.xosnetwork.com/pics32/640/EW/EWJHNLUIKDVAMHH.20101223000253.jpg)
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That baseball stadium looks great.
But... as much as you're straining to not admit it... using that soccer stadium shot looks like Charlotte has a high school press box.
Knucklehead.
hehe
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Cant leave out the football stadium can we Stu?....lol...And remember, this is WITHOUT the upper deck that's supposed to be added by the time they start CUSA play.
(http://postinspostcards.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/unc-charlotte-football-stadium.jpg)
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s720x720/27907_10151282810310279_1274937886_n.jpg)
(http://image.cdnllnwnl.xosnetwork.com/pics32/640/FF/FFOUARRRRJDPRMD.20130221191333.jpg)
(http://www.clearskyimages.com/img/s8/v82/p1397307640-3.jpg)
The finished product when the upper decks are installed.......
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dZptSgK96qU/TzwCdBHGI1I/AAAAAAAAA8M/fuTTG_dy0gc/s1600/HighResRender40k.jpg)
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I sure hope we eventually get a baseball stadium like Charlotte has some day. :-\
Would love to see Marshall have a home ball park like that. Share it with a farm team of the Reds would be perfect.
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Indeed, we can't.
That football stadium looks great.
But... as much as you're straining to not admit it... using that soccer stadium shot looks like Charlotte has a high school press box.
(Okay, no more name calling. It bores me.)
Btw, Steve... did you ever come to some conclusion about whether LaTech would have preferred to stay in Sun Belt had they taken that invite and gotten another from Britton in January? Did I ever get your answer to that? You remember? You were asserting that Britton had to make a move or risk losing LaTech permanently to the Sun Belt... ostensibly since CUSA and Sun Belt are virtual equals in your mind, I suppose... ? :-\ ... I dunno.
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Call me crazy Stu but I forgot the fairly new basketball arena....How in the world did I forget that?......Have you seen it?.....
(http://www.facilitiesonline.com/editorschoiceimg/Halton_EC.jpg)
(http://image1.stadiumjourney.com/images/stadiums/673_Halton_Arena_1)
(http://d1csi9vjsd9t3h.cloudfront.net/archive/x1190167275/g276258000000000000168fa74a71520fcf45b83accc0ca16315d27b888.jpg)
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Yes, I have.
....oooooo.... aaaaaaahhh....
That arena looks great.
But... as much as you're straining to not admit it... using that soccer stadium shot looks like Charlotte has a high school press box.
Come to think of it.... with all these facilities lookin so nice.... intrestin that you Charlotte huggers aren't pizzed off that their new conference made them look so bush league in this new video.... perhaps says something about how much more important it is to you to try to take a shot at ol sturt than to defend your pride and joy niner newbies... suppose I'm flattered, come to think of it... but then, I *do* care about the new conference and the image it's projecting, and in this particular case, Charlotte... suppose I'm the real Charlotte hugger... so how bout giving me a little less attention and being sincere to care about putting the conference's best proverbial foot forward, eh?
(Nah. I didn't think so.)
Oh... and... La Tech?!?... you were sayin?!?... or still avoiding?!?
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Yes, I have.
....oooooo.... aaaaaaahhh....
That arena looks great.
But... as much as you're straining to not admit it... using that soccer stadium shot looks like Charlotte has a high school press box.
Come to think of it.... with all these facilities lookin so nice.... intrestin that you Charlotte huggers aren't pizzed off that their new conference made them look so bush league in this new video.... perhaps says something about how much more important it is to you to try to take a shot at ol sturt than to defend your pride and joy niner newbies... suppose I'm flattered, come to think of it... but then, I *do* care about the new conference and the image it's projecting, and in this particular case, Charlotte... suppose I'm the real Charlotte hugger... so how bout giving me a little less attention and being sincere to care about putting the conference's best proverbial foot forward, eh?
(Nah. I didn't think so.)
Oh... and... La Tech?!?... you were sayin?!?... or still avoiding?!?
La Tech was a great add. A huge upgrade over Tulane. I don't think anyone would argue that.
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La Tech was a great add. A huge upgrade over Tulane. I don't think anyone would argue that.
Competitively, they were the best add. I don't disagree.
But answer the question?
You remember, right?
You were contending that Banowsky needed to add LaTech lest the Sun Belt extend an invite?... as-if CUSA 3.0 must be on the same level as Sun Belt and LaTech might prefer SB?
And... how bout a better angle on that soccer stadium so it doesn't look bush league... good idea, no? I realize you've put so much effort into posting all those pretty pictures just to oppose me, but when you think about it, don't you really want the league office to study what they put out there a little better?
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Competitively, they were the best add. I don't disagree.
But answer the question?
You remember, right?
You were contending that Banowsky needed to add LaTech lest the Sun Belt extend an invite?... as-if CUSA 3.0 must be on the same level as Sun Belt and LaTech might prefer SB?
And... how bout a better angle on that soccer stadium so it doesn't look bush league... good idea, no? I realize you've put so much effort into posting all those pretty pictures just to oppose me, but when you think about it, don't you really want the league office to study what they put out there a little better?
I'll give you a few nuggets Stu...... What a lot of people don't know is that while CUSA was getting teams taken away, Marshall, UAB, Southern Miss and ECU were all contacted by the Sunbelt commissioner to consider coming over as a package deal to go along with La Tech and Charlotte to the Sunbelt conference. Those six schools met as a group and talked about the offer and the options that were available.
Instead of going that route, the group worked with Banowsky to get those teams (La Tech/Charlotte) on board in CUSA instead. La Tech made the jump with FIU and North Texas (Replacing SMU and UCF) while Charlotte publically turned down the Sunbelt and joined CUSA when it got the offer. ODU originally said they weren't going to make the jump but reconsidered when Charlotte came on board and watched VCU leave for the A-10. There were actually several others that CUSA was talking with but ODU was at the top of their list and got voted in unanimously.
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Benson's courting of CUSA is well-documented, though I would agree that many people aren't aware of it... largely b/c it was a non-starter... there never was any good reason to give it much consideration in the first place... the money was with CUSA.
And you know that I know that that still doesn't address the question.
Banowsky screwed up. And I'm not sure if he's your favorite uncle or what, but it's a huge thing to you to admit that for some reason. I like the guy myself, but he moved too fast, and AAC exists today because he did.
Just looking for a little integrity here... admit the camera angle was a bad choice... seemingly, no big deal... and, admit that time has shown that Banowsky was impatient. How bout it.
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Sturt the amount you know about this conference stuff amazes me.
How do you keep on top of it cause I could care less but its cool you know a lot about it.
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Benson's courting of CUSA is well-documented, though I would agree that many people aren't aware of it... largely b/c it was a non-starter... there never was any good reason to give it much consideration in the first place... the money was with CUSA.
And you know that I know that that still doesn't address the question.
Banowsky screwed up. And I'm not sure if he's your favorite uncle or what, but it's a huge thing to you to admit that for some reason. I like the guy myself, but he moved too fast, and AAC exists today because he did.
Just looking for a little integrity here... admit the camera angle was a bad choice... seemingly, no big deal... and, admit that time has shown that Banowsky was impatient. How bout it.
People put to much emphasis on Banowsky himself......truth is, Banowsky reacts to what his membership wants. Banowsky will make suggestions to the members but in the end its comes down to a majority vote from its members when weighing options like expansion. Its not like Banowsky just woke up one day and decided to add all these members. That's not how it works.
In the end, its the voting body that determines the true direction of the league. Just ask John Marinatto. ::) His members originally turned down a huge TV deal (even after he recommended they vote yest on it). They voted it down and the rest is history. Cant blame John for that. The commissioner can have "visions" of what he wants for the league but none of that matters unless the leagues members agree and vote to approve of any measures.
I know some people on the board seem to get agitated with your posts Stu....but they don't bother me. I enjoy reading your posts. You are obviously a young little feller with the name calling and all that stuff but that's okay. I think its funny but interesting all at the same time. Stick around here long enough and you might learn a thing or two... ;D
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Sturt the amount you know about this conference stuff amazes me.
How do you keep on top of it cause I could care less but its cool you know a lot about it.
He doesn't know much, he just thinks he does... ;D
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Steve, yeah... I'm a young little fella... hehe... thanks...
Name calling? When did I... oh... you mean "knucklehead?"... hehe, really?... if you want to count that, okay I guess, but I think it was pretty clear that I was just having fun with 86's schtick... my friend, I've never, ever, ever called anyone anything, even when they were saying idiotic things... I may call their arguments "ridiculous," and I may characterize their behavior as MAC fan-like, but far be it for the one who is always trying to get others to stay on-topic to ever, ever be attacking a person.
Your insight into the inner workings of the CUSA office are probably about as informed as your insight into my age and stature... but... I will grant you this much, which is that we can't really know who the power-player presidents are who may have been taking strong stands, and that it is an unknown whether Banowsky led the charge and got the presidents to back his vision... I would offer that Banowsky is, however, the person who is the face of the conference, and part of the job description is that the buck stops with him.
As to your being or not being agitated with my posts... congrats, I don't get agitated by yours either. But I do think you could stand to show a little more integrity and answer things straight-up. If you don't want to lay it all at Banowsky's feet, for example, okay, but the point remains that the leadership of CUSA--whoever that is--moved too fast, and AAC exists today because they did.
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Sturt the amount you know about this conference stuff amazes me.
How do you keep on top of it cause I could care less but its cool you know a lot about it.
I have to admit... I wonder why I'm so intrigued by it all myself... but I am. I suppose I perceive the conference status as being so important... it's a platform from which our school can either launch into a stronger national regard or grow weaker.
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Steve, yeah... I'm a young little fella... hehe... thanks...
Name calling? When did I... oh... you mean "knucklehead?"... hehe, really?... if you want to count that, okay I guess, but I think it was pretty clear that I was just having fun with 86's schtick... my friend, I've never, ever, ever called anyone anything, even when they were saying idiotic things... I may call their arguments "ridiculous," and I may characterize their behavior as MAC fan-like, but far be it for the one who is always trying to get others to stay on-topic to ever, ever be attacking a person.
Your insight into the inner workings of the CUSA office are probably about as informed as your insight into my age and stature... but... I will grant you this much, which is that we can't really know who the power-player presidents are who may have been taking strong stands, and that it is an unknown whether Banowsky led the charge and got the presidents to back his vision... I would offer that Banowsky is, however, the person who is the face of the conference, and part of the job description is that the buck stops with him.
As to your being or not being agitated with my posts... congrats, I don't get agitated by yours either. But I do think you could stand to show a little more integrity and answer things straight-up. If you don't want to lay it all at Banowsky's feet, for example, okay, but the point remains that the leadership of CUSA--whoever that is--moved too fast, and AAC exists today because they did.
The AAC still exists because they still had the Big East name as a big bargaining chip along with some exaggerated TV promises. Not to mention that the basketball schools were still there at the time. Once the football side was able to add who they wanted, the basketball schools split and took the name with them. It was probably planned that way all along.
That AAC name (Because its new) doesn't carry any more weight than CUSA or the MWC does. Matter of fact, the leader of the GO5 is most certainly the MWC now. No doubt about it. Everybody else is just trying to claw their way to the top and get that new at large bid. Hopefully it will be us getting that bid in the next couple years. We just need to get back on track and start winning consistently again. The rest will take care of itself. Don't believe me? Just ask the folks at in Boise Idaho.
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Enjoy the ride!
Wait! I'm not sure I like the angle that was used to show Angus' hat!!! It makes all hats look bad. HAHAHAHA! Get over yourselves, haters. I'm gonna riiiiiide on!!!!
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The AAC still exists because they still had the Big East name as a big bargaining chip along with some exaggerated TV promises. Not to mention that the basketball schools were still there at the time. Once the football side was able to add who they wanted, the basketball schools split and took the name with them. It was probably planned that way all along.
That AAC name (Because its new) doesn't carry any more weight than CUSA or the MWC does. Matter of fact, the leader of the GO5 is most certainly the MWC now. No doubt about it. Everybody else is just trying to claw their way to the top and get that new at large bid. Hopefully it will be us getting that bid in the next couple years. We just need to get back on track and start winning consistently again. The rest will take care of itself. Don't believe me? Just ask the folks at in Boise Idaho.
Okay. I'm convinced now. He IS your favorite uncle. You just won't go there, will you.
AAC exists because CUSA leadership replaced the defector schools too quickly. Period.
Had the leadership been patient, once Boise made its move back to MWC, the CUSA defectors would have backed out similarly in order to avoid paying fees just to play each other, leaving Cincy, UConn, USF and Temple with little option but to join CUSA, or MAC, or go indy.
And actually, if one bothers to run some unbiased numbers, top-to-middle-to-botom, the AAC's 5 year Sagarins are decidedly stronger than MWC's... though I'll agree that it won't take long for AAC to regress back to MWC.
No matter, both we and the MAC are looking up at those two. Critical point: We can't sit back. We have to be the innovators here and so some things differently so that we can claw up to AAC/MWC's level of recognition nationally.
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Ride on, bitches. Enjoy the ride!
Wait! I'm not sure I like the angle that was used to show Angus' hat!!! It makes all hats look bad. HAHAHAHA! Get over yourselves, haters. I'm gonna riiiiiide on!!!!!
mckayt, looks like you got your pills confused again... this, is NOT your viagra...
(http://www.interbrand.com/Libraries/CaseStudy-Main/Prozac_Main.sflb.ashx)
(*KIDDING*)
But seriously... just a little bit, anyhow...
Hating the producer? Okay. Yeah. If they did that to us, I'd be twice as upset. It's nuts, especially given all of the nice facilities they could have shown (thank you MSteve), or even have shown that same soccer stadium in a way that didn't make it look like this FBS newbie had a high school shack for a press box... why do you defend that?
Oh. Wait. I get it.
The bell rang, and you salivated.
Predictable.
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Predictable.
Please don't take this the wrong way, but there is nothing more predictable than your posts. We seriously get how you feel at this point.
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Nah. You don't. Which was why I said what I just said. Your response speaks of hating. Hating the video shot? That would have been correct. But you think I hate Charlotte. Even now after all that's been said in this thread.
I do hate the position we're in... you're right that I'm predictable there. But to not hate it is to be a pacifist. My hate for this situation just makes me want better, whereas the love of some for this situation just makes them content.
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LOL I think they showed one MU highlight and it was girls basketball...
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So if I'm following correctly. We've fallen off the map because Charlotte looked to have a crappy press box. When it's pointed out its just a soccer press box and they have sweet facilities, we've fallen off the map because they used that video. I love ol Stu, you can't prove a man wrong when his argument never stays the same.
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So if I'm following correctly. We've fallen off the map because Charlotte looked to have a crappy press box. When it's pointed out its just a soccer press box and they have sweet facilities, we've fallen off the map because they used that video. I love ol Stu, you can't prove a man wrong when his argument never stays the same.
96, one of us must be visually-impaired because for the life of me, I'm having incredible difficulty locating the part where I say something about us falling off the map because Charlotte looked to have a crappy press box. And then, same problem... difficulty finding that there's some gap between that supposed statement and a later statement when I say something about us falling off the map because they used that clip.
Nope. Looks to me like I said that from the *very first post*...
Yikes. You know I'm never one to criticize... ;)... but really... who thought sticking this in at the beginning was a good idea?
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8396/8696332205_732b84a7b4.jpg)
(Looks like a high school pep rally with that press box shack up there.)
I love ol 96... you can't prove a man wrong when he makes up stuff that you can't prove is showing up on his screen, even though it's not showing up on your own.
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LOL you couldn't catch _sturt_ in a steeltrap ;D
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I say something about us falling off the map because Charlotte looked to have a crappy press box.
Don't sweat it, they are the bottom of the college football barrel and we are right there with them, soakin in the brine of apathy.
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"When you line them up like that, it really hits you that that's a literal "who's-that?" of FBS schools. We've got our work cut out for us.
We can't sit back as a conference and be content. If we're going to rise up and be the predominant conference of the Go5, and accordingly going to grow in relevance nationally to the point that we can attain TV revenues in the millions rather than the thousands... we're looking up at two conferences, and have another one jockeying with us from the side." Sorry I'm on my phone and had to quote you without the normal box of quoting people, but I think my original post of you insinuating we fell behind makes sense when you read the whole comment and not paste the part you want people to read
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And before you respond, what did you mean 'if we're going to rise up' based on that picture if we haven't fallen?
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Hmmmm... who's changing his argument in mid-stream now?
After "Yikes," there are two statements about the press box clip... so when you poke your finger in my chest asserting that I said we fell off the map, first, because of the crappy press box, and later, because of the video clip... since those are the ONLY statements I made about the press box clip... you kinda have to figure out some way to justify the accusation.
Fail.
The balance of the post is NOT about the crappy press box.
Is it critical of our new peers? Not in any sense that isn't widely acknowledged--ie, these are schools that are not household names.
I say "We've got our work cut out for us," because--and again, even those who love this new environment acknowledge this--ummmmm... we *do*.
96, do you think I'm wrong?
Are you suggesting we *can* sit back as a conference and be content?
Are you suggesting we *already are* the predominant conference of the Go5?
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Stu, if you didn't talk out of your ass so much, people wouldn't have so much crap to throw back in your face.
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And before you respond, what did you mean 'if we're going to rise up' based on that picture if we haven't fallen?
What do *you* mean? Are you suggesting we *haven't* fallen back? And if so, do you have any *objective* ways of supporting that assertion?... because, as you know too well, I've bothered to do the math, so it would be amusing to see how you could possibly come up with something quantitative to back up such high praise.
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Stu, if you didn't talk out of your ass so much, people wouldn't have so much crap to throw back in your face.
Predictable... when one has no actual substance to back up his talk, he turns to cutesy insults hoping somehow to distract anyone from noticing. Case in point. You've done it before. No surprise you're doing it again. Weak.
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I think by that post you've proven the point of my original post. Thanks.
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You're welcome.
And I think by that post, you're embarrassed that you hit a dead end and can't justify your original statement... and doubly embarrassed by the hypocrisy of accusing me of changing my argument, given that that's precisely what you just did.
Why do you do this to yourself. Over and over again. I dunno. Just stop making things up, and review your words for accuracy and that will cure 96% of your problem.
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OK, let me break this down for you dum&^$r*(. If in your original post you weren't insinuating we had fallen a level, what did "if we're going to rise up" after the picture you posted mean? (No need to answer. We've all seen your long winded posts about how we've been left behind. Just don't be a chickenshit and run away from what your post really meant. A 1st grader could read between the lines.)
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OK, let me break this down for you dum&^$r*(. If in your original post you weren't insinuating we had fallen a level, what did "if we're going to rise up" after the picture you posted mean? (No need to answer. We've all seen your long winded posts about how we've been left behind. Just don't be a chicken%^&* and run away from what your post really meant. A 1st grader could read between the lines.)
I repeat.
And I think by... yet another... post... you're embarrassed that you hit a dead end and can't justify your original statement... and doubly embarrassed by the hypocrisy of accusing me of changing my argument, given that that's precisely what you just did.
Why do you do this to yourself. Over and over... and, yes, over... again.
Oh, and are we supposed to think you're *more* mature since you can use expletives? Because I'm not sure you've even got *that* figured out.
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Stu, just answer the question.
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Answer the question? You mean like this?
http://www.herdfans.com/12thman/index.php?topic=70120.msg552020#msg552020
Guess you weren't paying attention.
96, your attempts at saving face are only digging a bigger ditch... I'm flattered that you so desperately want to come after little ol me, but you wanna talk about not answering questions... I answered yours several posts ago, yet you remain in the [insert expletive here so I can feel all grown-up] red by about a half-dozen now.
For my part, I said what I said and meant exactly what I said... no reading-between-the-lines necessary.
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Nothing new to add to this discussion really, but even though I don't like being left behind schools I really liked competing with; with the exception of WKU I think C-USA did a really good job of setting up the long term future. The development of a series of growing metropolitan areas across the country may prove well invested in time to come; ODU (Hampton/VA Beach, etc.), Charlotte, MTSU (Nashville)...they all make sense to me when saving a conference was at stake. Losing Tulsa was a big blow IMHO.
But again, I may not like losing the old C-USA, but I do think the talking / thinking heads did a pretty good job of projecting where the "conference" needed to be in the future. So I see the conference moves as a win and MU not moving with a host of others a loss.
On the facilities side, remember these are big investments for universities that MU made some time ago with the Joan, and yes all the way back to the "CAM" (which was a great facility in the day).
And hey, our new IAF isn't anything to be laughed at.
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I believe this is what is known as being "owned"
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Um, I wasn't being critical of Charlotte's program or fans, but rather the decision by someone at CUSA HQ to use that camera shot in a promotional video. Put our fans in front of our press box, it looks good... put fans in front of that shack, and it looks only slightly better than what we had at dear ol' Vinson High.
At least at Vinson, We had our Very Own TOM POTTY........
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Hey Stu....Did you ever see the baseball stadium? Guess you aren't impressed with that either?....
(http://publicrelations.uncc.edu/sites/publicrelations.uncc.edu/files/media/campus_large/HayesStadiumOct2007.jpg?1297869006)
(http://pics4.city-data.com/cpicv/vfiles31226.jpg)
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/p480x480/543699_10151544297493288_1738221073_n.jpg)
(http://www.baseballpros.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/uncc2.jpg)
(http://image.cdnllnwnl.xosnetwork.com/pics32/640/EW/EWJHNLUIKDVAMHH.20101223000253.jpg)
Hell. The girl coming up the stairs in the third pic with the Daisy Dukes on is enough to sell me....Welcome Charlotte.......
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Hell. The girl coming up the stairs in the third pic with the Daisy Dukes on is enough to sell me....Welcome Charlotte.......
CHA CHING!!!!!!!!! Im not the only one!!!
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That campus is amazing for all the pretty women. Bar nearby called "Bikinis' where coeds wait on tables and tend bar wearing bikini tops, daisy dukes and cowboy boots.