Topic: Marshall deserves better?

[herdloyal]

Lady Herd BB, Track & Field, Softball and others are have added value. FB could be explosive maybe this year. MBB IS A TRAIN WRECK! Will this be the year we get Mike to say to the NBA I ?ve had enough come back home and dominate SBC and develop a winning tradition of MBB at Marshall and compete year in and year out for both Conference and National Championships! You got to ask yourselves Herdfans why not us?
P.S. Change our thinking Change our Vision!

[herd2win]

Would not want Mike at this point.  Need completely new direction.  Coach Caldwell and Grassie show what a good coach can bring to MU.  They and their teams do not make excuses and expect to win.

[svherd]

Would not want Mike at this point.  Need completely new direction.  Coach Caldwell and Grassie show what a good coach can bring to MU.  They and their teams do not make excuses and expect to win.

Exactly. The way this DD situation has turned out, I don't think I would ever want a Marshall alum as our mens b'ball or football coach again. Just too much pressure and the possibility exists that the outcome would not be good and sour what was a legacy and wonderful relationship. jmho

Look for successful lower division coaches. Grassie and Caldwell have proven it can be done, and quickly.

[parshall2marshall]

Would not want Mike at this point.  Need completely new direction.  Coach Caldwell and Grassie show what a good coach can bring to MU.  They and their teams do not make excuses and expect to win.

Would like to hear the rationale behind not wanting a veritable basketball colossus with the stature of a Mike D.

[HerdinNT]

Why not on MD. First, has never coached at this level.  Two, no recruiting experience,.  Three, no contacts with high school or aau at this level.  Four, he is old to do this just like his brother.  Five, he had his chance to be the HC and declined.  I could go on and on but the reality is we need a change in how we approach the bb operations.  And DD and MD are not the right choice in todays college bb environment.

[herd2win]

Would like to hear the rationale behind not wanting a veritable basketball colossus with the stature of a Mike D.

I agree with the answer that was already given.  The age is a factor and his lack of college recruiting and contacts.  His basketball innovation is beyond question, it is just the rest of what is needed.  His name alone will not bring in recruits.

[herdfan48]

If true, it's definitely not the best option, but better than playing it in Wheeling


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[MUther]

This isn't a criticism or a comparison or anything like that.  But that feeling you have right now about the basketball team, that wonder if it'll ever get better or be moved on from, even if it wasn't all bad and some good things happened.  That is what a lot of us felt about Doc much of his career here.  A LOT of people didn't understand why we wanted to move on from a coach of the year with an overall winning record, albeit mostly 50/50 record.  It's not that the current guy is all that bad, it's that you know it can't get better after seeing someone do the job for that many years.  You see their limitations and habits and can make the call about almost any situation before it happens.  And if we know how the coach will react to any situation, you can bet the opponents do.

Sometimes you just need a change to look at something different, even if it's not immediately better or gets worse before it gets better.  You can't move on to the next guy and the one after that to fix things until you put the current guy in the rearview mirror.  Dan's been here too long, even if he was winning more and had some titles under his belt.  Very few coaches retire a winner.  They almost always try to keep the gig till they're forced out, unless something better comes along.

I think 7 years is the sweet spot.  Gives a coach a full collegiate cycle and 3 years to leave the next guy with a full senior laden pantry to work with.  Harder now with the portal to keep upperclassmen but the portal also allows a new coach to bring in a couple guys he's looking at or wants to bring with him.  If a coach hasn't made his mark by year 7 he isn't going to suddenly do it in year 10.  And if he has then use that momentum to slingshot into an even better position.  Don't let things get stale and have to start from scratch every single time.

[coalherd]

Why not on MD. First, has never coached at this level.  Two, no recruiting experience,.  Three, no contacts with high school or aau at this level.  Four, he is old to do this just like his brother.  Five, he had his chance to be the HC and declined.  I could go on and on but the reality is we need a change in how we approach the bb operations.  And DD and MD are not the right choice in todays college bb environment.

Look NO further than at Danny for an answer.  Coached HS ball for what, 
20, 25 years or so in S. Carolina.  How many of his former players went into High School coaching after having played for Danny?  Now name ONE HERD basketball from South Carolina, or elsewhere, who was steered to, and played for, MU by one such former HS player of Danny's!!  He HAD NO recruiting connections upon landing the MU job.  Players who came to MU were primarily landed by the assistant coaches, perhaps Mark Cline mostly, and perhaps with help from former MU player and coach, Greg White!