Topic: What is worse for Men's hoops?

[herd1990]

(1). Coaching

(2). Talent.

It's a hard one but I'm gonna say talent.  Not sure Coach K could do anything with this crew.  Coaching is a very close runner up.

[GreenWhite]

It was coaching that brought in the players. So, I will go with coaching from the whole staff, not just Dan.

[MUfan08]

(1). Coaching

(2). Talent.

It's a hard one but I'm gonna say talent.  Not sure Coach K could do anything with this crew.  Coaching is a very close runner up.

Well the coaches appear not to do jack crap and expect the players to figure it out.
I honestly would like to know what Dan actually does.

[wasbarryb]

Well the coaches appear not to do jack crap and expect the players to figure it out.
I honestly would like to know what Dan actually does.

Practicing one liners?

[GreenWhite]

Not a whole lot. I'm thinking no coaches do much. We have to win out just to finish one game above .500. Just don't see it happening.

[svherd]

Coaching is worse. We are getting worse, not better.

Meanwhile, Caldwell is kicking tail and is the best hire we have made since Grassie

[herd1990]

Coaching is worse. We are getting worse, not better.

Meanwhile, Caldwell is kicking tail and is the best hire we have made since Grassie

Caldwell is proof coaching matters!

[MUfan08]

We have Mr. Magoo as our coach...

[Buffalo Bop]

When you make mistakes in recruiting, it will come back and bite you in the arse. This game is a perfect example of that. And Dan has no one to blame but himself.

BTW, in Chuck's latest column, he explains the lack of a legitimate PG is hurting Marshall.

[MUfan08]

BTW, in Chuck's latest column, he explains the lack of a legitimate PG is hurting Marshall.

The fans have been saying that since Elmore left (and Dan just tries to put anyone there and see what happens), but what is really hurting Marshall is a legitimate head coach.

[elginherd]

It's not an either/or...it's both.

[MUfan08]

It's not an either/or...it's both.

It is still coaching, they ultimately bring in the players and structure the roster, mold/scheme for the players to give the team the best chance to win.

[DC01HERD]

Coach. He recruits the players and stands with his arms folded during games. It's over. It's imperative that he is not coaching next year.

[Big City]

It starts and ends with the coach.

[coalherd]

What is worse?  Answer is easy:  for DANNY D'ANTONI to coach ONE more game at MU after the 23-24 season!!!

[elginherd]

It is still coaching, they ultimately bring in the players and structure the roster, mold/scheme for the players to give the team the best chance to win.

Coaching and recruiting are related, but not the same. It's true that there is a talent issue(s), and it's also true that the issue is DD's responsibility.

BUT, coaching is getting the most out of the hand that, admittedly, he dealt himself. There were more wins available within this team, despite the problems with the roster.

[DC01HERD]

Coaching and recruiting are related, but not the same. It's true that there is a talent issue(s), and it's also true that the issue is DD's responsibility.

BUT, coaching is getting the most out of the hand that, admittedly, he dealt himself. There were more wins available within this team, despite the problems with the roster.

The wins were available because this conference isn't very good. Marshall has too good a fanbase to finish in the bottom half of this league.

[elginherd]

The wins were available because this conference isn't very good. Marshall has too good a fanbase to finish in the bottom half of this league.

That might be true.
But I suspect that what I said would still be the case if we were in another mid major conference.

[wasbarryb]

I'm not sure how to answer the question in the OP, but I do know when the average fan considers winning more important than the coach does, it is time for a new coach before you lose all your fans

[Collis P]

Coaching and recruiting are related, but not the same. It's true that there is a talent issue(s), and it's also true that the issue is DD's responsibility.

BUT, coaching is getting the most out of the hand that, admittedly, he dealt himself. There were more wins available within this team, despite the problems with the roster.

elginherd - very true = Good example is our women's team.....   Coach Caldwell added some new players and had several from last year and her coaching Ability/Knowledge molded a Really Good competitive team and enjoyable to watch.  Every game from the start the players got better and Totally understand the system......     Bottom-line - A Winner!!  Bottom-line - A really good COACH!!

[Garbanjo]

Caldwell is proof coaching matters!

Caldwell is proof Spears can make a great hire

Time for DD to step aside ASAP

Go Herd!

[banker]

Everyone, with the exception of a few overly optimistic souls, knew before the season we would be less than a .500 team. I know it?s hard watching it come to fruition, but why stress over prior knowledge being realized?  We knew we had no players or coaching before the opening tip.  Oh, and there?s zero chance next year is better if we stay with the status quo.

[wasbarryb]

Everyone, with the exception of a few overly optimistic souls, knew before the season we would be less than a .500 team. I know it?s hard watching it come to fruition, but why stress over prior knowledge being realized?  We knew we had no players or coaching before the opening tip.  Oh, and there?s zero chance next year is better if we stay with the status quo.

I'm convinced that fan unhappiness played at least some part in pushing Snyder out and pushing Doc out   As a fan that loves Marshall complaining about DD is something I consider to be my duty as a Herd fan.  I honestly like DD, I was supportive of his hire and enjoyed his early years, but face it, things have changed and it is time for a change.

[Garbanjo]

I predicted 10-15 wins

Straight up we should be at the top of this conference (top 4) even with this flawed roster

DD has done a terrible job coaching this year

It's just time folks

[Bob25526]

Merge with the women, use their coach, form one team?