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The place to talk Marshall University sports! => HerdFans => Topic started by: mu79grad on February 27, 2024, 08:28:01 AM
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Two diametrically opposed views about whether Coach Huff is underrated. I think it's an excellent 60-second listen.
From cbssports.com
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/video/should-charles-huff-be-considered-an-underrated-college-football-coach/
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Two diametrically opposed views about whether Coach Huff is underrated. I think it's an excellent 60-second listen.
From cbssports.com
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/video/should-charles-huff-be-considered-an-underrated-college-football-coach/
Underrated?
LMAO!
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Huff is not underrated. He is an average coach right now. The second guy says consistent bowl wins when Huff is 1-2 in bowls.
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LOL. You really have to watch that guys. Now MU is a tough place to win according to Carl. Brandon agrees that he has taken us a step back.
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No. He needs to make this year his best by far; or his HC career will take a huge hit. His poor hires of most staff has been the killer. Guidry has been his best hire and he bolted. We'll see what the new OC/QB Coach can do.
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All I got to say is the one guy knew his facts (Doc Holliday), the other did not (consistent bowl winner). IF Huff could coach like the PR machine that is out there for him, we would be playing on New Years Day.
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Marshall isn?t hard to win or recruit at. Do all athletes get in-State tuition rate at MU?
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LOL. You really have to watch that guys. Now MU is a tough place to win according to Carl. Brandon agrees that he has taken us a step back.
I agree with him that in today's college environment G5 will be harder to build a program than it was 4 years ago. We won in the past but finding players overlooked by bigger programs. If that happens today the bigger program will just come in and take them. I hate the way it is now but that's the reality.
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I agree with him that in today's college environment G5 will be harder to build a program than it was 4 years ago. We won in the past but finding players overlooked by bigger programs. If that happens today the bigger program will just come in and take them. I hate the way it is now but that's the reality.
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Missing the point, that scenario applies to all G5. So we should still be able to win the SBC because all teams are getting players poached.
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Missing the point, that scenario applies to all G5. So we should still be able to win the SBC because all teams are getting players poached.
The two head coaches in our $$$ sports are losers who aren't good enough and are both using spin to put "lipstick on the pig" of their tenures, while also crapping on Marshall, Huntington and the fan base.
We're not asking for SEC titles folks, we're just asking to compete for Sun Belt titles.......the Fing Sun Belt.
It's not a big ask folks, and Spears and Smith need to step up and fix this shite.
Put DD and Fluff out ASAP
Go Herd!
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Still good pub for Marshall football. Whatever your views are on Huff, this fluff on Huff is entertaining.
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I am not a big Huff supporter. He did make some big coaching moves to alter how we play offensively in the off season. He also recruited very well. I personally think it is tough for a younger position coach to jump into a Head Coaching position. That is a huge jump with way more moving pieces and responsibilities. This should be remembered on the next hire.
Hopefully he has his legs under him now and can start moving the program forward.
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No. He needs to make this year his best by far; or his HC career will take a huge hit. His poor hires of most staff has been the killer. Guidry has been his best hire and he bolted. We'll see what the new OC/QB Coach can do.
Especially Clint Trickett as OC. A young, inexperienced HC hiring a young, inexperienced OC. It made absolutely no sense and should have been a massive red flag.
The roster looks really good heading into the fall. If this season is another failure, I don't think we can blame the players. In the NIL and portal era, the ability to handle roster churn is going to separate the good programs from the bad.
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OL & DL keys
Need a true #1 rb
Like to see Turner get 10-12 carries a game as the 1 or 2 back
TEs get involved downfield
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Marshall isn?t hard to win or recruit at. Do all athletes get in-State tuition rate at MU?
Not sure what you're asking, but the Big Green and/or Marshall itself pays the tuition that the player would have incurred if he/she was a walk-on. So it pays (or waives) out of state tuition for out of state students.
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Missing the point, that scenario applies to all G5. So we should still be able to win the SBC because all teams are getting players poached.
Which is exactly what I said. It's harder to build a program in G5 than it was 4 years ago.
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Carls top 5
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If Coach Huff was one of the top, up and coming coaches, as the commentator stated, he would have been gone by now. Wolf, thanks for putting my original post in context.
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Anything you hear about Fluff from his hype machine:
Cut it in half and divide it by four and you're closer to reality
Lol
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Huff is the best thing to happen to Marshall since Pruett left
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Fact Check:
Carl Reed: Marshall beat Notre Dame in his first year as HC.
Fact Check: False. Marshall beat ND in Huff's second year as HC.
Carl Reed: Huff has consistent bowl wins.
Fact Check: False. Huff is 1 win and 2 losses in bowl games. Huff's only bowl win was over UConn. Huff's two bowl losses were to UTSA and Louisiana.
Carl Reed: Marshall is a tough place to recruit.
Fact Check: You make the call. Donnan and Pruett had recruiting success. Even though it didn't show up in the win column, Snyder put several players in the NFL. Huff's wins have come mainly on the back of Holiday's recruits.
Brandon nailed. He did his research and was prepared. Carl Reed is like Huff, unprepared and overrated.
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Huff is going to prove a lot of people wrong this year. Mark it down. Marshall football is back and going to be fun to watch again finally!!!
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Carl Reed: Marshall is a tough place to recruit.
Fact Check: You make the call. Donnan and Pruett had recruiting success. Even though it didn't show up in the win column, Snyder put several players in the NFL. Huff's wins have come mainly on the back of Holiday's recruits.
1) it's hard to compare the Huntington of 1992 to the Huntington of 2024.
2) Donnan was recruiting to compete in DI-AA, but did a fabulous job
3) Pruett had a couple of big recruitoing swings that connected, but by the end of his coaching career had seemed to lose a lot of the magic. Two of the big keys players he landed (Moss / Bradshaw) were redirects.
I think Huff will have a decent year then bid us farewell for a better job.
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I'm not convinced at this point. I think next season can go either way. I do know there's a real possibility we could open 1-3 and if that does happen what expectations should we have for remainder of season? No denying we have question marks regarding new players and new coaches.
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1) it's hard to compare the Huntington of 1992 to the Huntington of 2024.
2) Donnan was recruiting to compete in DI-AA, but did a fabulous job
3) Pruett had a couple of big recruitoing swings that connected, but by the end of his coaching career had seemed to lose a lot of the magic. Two of the big keys players he landed (Moss / Bradshaw) were redirects.
I think Huff will have a decent year then bid us farewell for a better job.
Yep, sadly, the current mayor has let the inmates run the asylum the last 8 years. Reading comments about Huntington from out of towners during the WVSSAC football championship site selection process made me sad. Many said, wouldn't come due to drugs and drug addicts, crime, afraid to get car stolen, etc. While those claims may be valid or not, still a bad look for our town. Thanks Steve!
I can see where it may not be the easiest place to recruit. All about perception.
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Fact Check:
Carl Reed: Marshall beat Notre Dame in his first year as HC.
Fact Check: False. Marshall beat ND in Huff's second year as HC.
Carl Reed: Huff has consistent bowl wins.
Fact Check: False. Huff is 1 win and 2 losses in bowl games. Huff's only bowl win was over UConn. Huff's two bowl losses were to CUSA schools, UTSA and Louisiana.
Carl Reed: Marshall is a tough place to recruit.
Fact Check: You make the call. Donnan and Pruett had recruiting success. Even though it didn't show up in the win column, Snyder put several players in the NFL. Huff's wins have come mainly on the back of Holiday's recruits.
Brandon nailed. He did his research and was prepared. Carl Reed is like Huff, unprepared and overrated.
Fact check: Louisiana is not a CUSA school it is a Sun Belt school. We were in CUSA when we played them in that bowl.
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Football is not great, but basketball is a train wreck. The Danettes are just deflecting about the real Marshall problem, Dan. We are looking at 12-20 in basketball, that is a bigger problem. We need take care of basketball now and fix football at the end of the season if we don't do well in the SBC.
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Fact Check:
Carl Reed: Marshall beat Notre Dame in his first year as HC.
Fact Check: False. Marshall beat ND in Huff's second year as HC.
Carl Reed: Huff has consistent bowl wins.
Fact Check: False. Huff is 1 win and 2 losses in bowl games. Huff's only bowl win was over UConn. Huff's two bowl losses were to CUSA schools, UTSA and Louisiana.
Carl Reed: Marshall is a tough place to recruit.
Fact Check: You make the call. Donnan and Pruett had recruiting success. Even though it didn't show up in the win column, Snyder put several players in the NFL. Huff's wins have come mainly on the back of Holiday's recruits.
Brandon nailed. He did his research and was prepared. Carl Reed is like Huff, unprepared and overrated.
Louisiana is in the SBC with us LOL
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Fact check: Louisiana is not a CUSA school it is a Sun Belt school. We were in CUSA when we played them in that bowl.
Dang it. Thanks for the correction. Fixed it.
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I'm not convinced at this point. I think next season can go either way. I do know there's a real possibility we could open 1-3 and if that does happen what expectations should we have for remainder of season? No denying we have question marks regarding new players and new coaches.
I agree. The upcoming season has a slight hail Mary feel to it.
The schedule is weakest near the end of the season. The last three games are against teams that had losing records last season. ULM and So. Miss are two of the worse teams in the conference. Ga State, the 4th to last team, finished the regular season at .500.
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One guy using facts and logic
The other guy insults and emotions
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Dang it. Thanks for the correction. Fixed it.
No worries. I wouldn't have said anything but the irony of botching a fact check was too funny.
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I agree with him that in today's college environment G5 will be harder to build a program than it was 4 years ago. We won in the past but finding players overlooked by bigger programs. If that happens today the bigger program will just come in and take them. I hate the way it is now but that's the reality.
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Curious if you follow recruiting? May be harder to retain top talent, but we have our highest rated recruiting class on paper. Not saying it will amount to anything, but I can?t remember MU having a top 10 class in football. Whether it be transfers or hs recruits. Plus all G5s are all in on the same situation, we just have to be the best of our peers. It goes both ways with the portal?
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Huff has lost 7 out of the last 9 games that he has coached here. The assertion that Huff is underrated as a coach is preposterous.
Need I say more?
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Was it two years ago or last year that Coach Huff was bragging about how the recruiting class was the best in Marshall history?
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Huff has lost 7 out of the last 9 games that he has coached here. The assertion that Huff is underrated as a coach is preposterous.
Need I say more?
Is that true?
Lost 7 of last 9 games?
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Huff is the best thing to happen to Marshall since Pruett left
I don't disagree, but that's a pretty low bar. But I would say Marshall football, as we've had great things happen in other sports in that time. But basically you're just saying Huff is better than Snyder or Doc. Taking some real risk saying that, lol.
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I don't disagree, but that's a pretty low bar. But I would say Marshall football, as we've had great things happen in other sports in that time. But basically you're just saying Huff is better than Snyder or Doc. Taking some real risk saying that, lol.
The really horrible thing is he was brought in to do better than No Nuts Punts A lot, and he hasn't been better
He's basically Doc
Put Fluff out
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He deserved to be fired after last season, but at least he's going all out to change things while bringing in talent that we've never seen here before on paper.
Of course, that doesn't mean anything if it doesn't translate to wins. But I can't say I'm not excited to see us run the air raid for the first time.