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Offline Toro Toro Taxi

How long before this happens here ?
« on: September 21, 2022, 07:29:05 AM »
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  • Curious as to what our responses would be , probably alot of the same . Its best to keep a good amount at your house.



     

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    How long before this happens here ?
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    Offline herdorbust2

    Re: How long before this happens here ?
    « Reply #1 on: September 21, 2022, 07:45:25 AM »
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  • People will laugh but it?s coming here if we stay on the same path we are now. Shutting down business, firing people for not getting vaxd, Raiding your opponents home, Confiscating phones, weaponizing the DOJ and FBI, going on live TV telling half the nation that they are the enemy etc,,, is unheard of but it?s happening.
     

    Offline chris88

    Re: How long before this happens here ?
    « Reply #2 on: September 22, 2022, 07:19:32 AM »
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  • This is long and somewhat ranting so consider yourself warned.

    What is shocking to me is the lack of intellectual curiosity about what is going on.

    Every anti-Trump operation has proven to be false yet still pushed on multiple levels.  Yet there is video evidence of Hunter Biden with Russian hookers, illicit drugs, and numerous video and other communications revealing the influence peddling of Hunter and its links to Joe. You have many people going to prison for 7+ years for nothing but trespassing in the capitol in which many were let in. You have a bill that wants to fund 85,000 new IRS agents to gain an estimated 20B years in funds when you have a government that by many watchdogs and standards wastes or loses hundreds of billions via waste/fraud/abuse every year (remember when Rumsfeld admitted the Pentagon lost 1.3T?)  You have a President who, according to the left, is morally superior to the one who left office but his daughter's published diary states she was taking showers ("probably inappropriately"..her words) with her father and was likely sexually abused as a child (her words) and yet nobody wants to talk about it. You have a government apparatus consisting of an administration, military leaders, law enforcement, and intelligence agencies doing everything they can to paint half of the country as racists nazi's. We have technology available to make all elections safe and be concluded within two hours of polls closing yet we have politicians and others peddling the notion, without evidence, that voter ID's are somehow suppressing voting. You have two parties full of politicians that have spent over 30 T dollars more than they have taken in (or several hundred thousands per taxpayer) with little or nothing to show for it and which is so extensive that it can never be paid back.  You have energy independence thrown away by people who have wanted you to believe for 50+ years that the "climate" is an existential threat despite not one of the drastic things that they predicted having ever come to fruition. You have the highest paid govt employee, now documented, blatantly lying on multiple occasions about a virus, it's orgins, and the response to benefit himself and the largest pharma companies in world. We have an administration who states the "border is secure" despite over 5 million illegals entering the country over last two years...or approx the size of the entire population of Ireland...and see no economic detriment to such activity. We have a uniparty segment who insists on engaging in forever war campaign's without logic, fiscal constraint, or conclusion that seem to only benefit and enrich the MIC and their political supporters while killing hundreds of thousands of innocents. Finally, you have a media apparatus so full of conflict of interest that they refuse to report on anything above in a substantial way at all. And when they do it is so obviously so one sided that it can only be considered as propaganda..all the while they cheer for your cancellation from work or prosperity along with restriction and even removal of first and second amendment rights from anyone the opposes the narrative viewpoint and even labels them as "fascists"?

    And despite all that and the current economic turmoil, record crime, lack of truth/transparency, and rapidly declining quality of life around world I have family, friends etc who are ready to vote again for their own destruction and that of their children.  To that I say: it's over.  We have reached peak prosperity in the US.  The Rubicon has been crossed so far on the debt level that normality can no longer return. The govt cannot print us into prosperity because the debt level is too heavy.  If you vote for expansion of government at any level you are just exacerbating the process of decline because, in the end, they are powerless and unwilling to help you.  For example, the taxes I pay for property and school district tax alone are equivalent to 60% of my mortgage payment. So even if my house were paid off, I would still owe equivalent to 60% of my payment in taxes....and there is a levy on ballot again in November to take even more.  If I lost my income due to situation/health etc do you think they would be understanding about not paying my property taxes?  No, they would be filling paperwork to take my house. Now, lets say that just 5-7% of population was in same boat. What do you think the aggregate impact would be?  These are the consequences that lead to the situations of the original article.

    The only saving grace would be a return to a Christian foundation as a guiding light.  If we, collectively, continue to turn away from that you are likely to see suffering and conflict you never imagined in your lifetime and certainly that of your children. My advice is read Matthew 24 and it will become clear that Christians will be the scapegoat.  Ten years ago, DHS published a list of things that could be red flagged as signs of domestic terrorism. One of them was belief in book of Revelations, the anti-christ, and religious end of world scenarios. Or really anything that made you believe your individual rights/opinions supersede the will of the government.  That outrageous notion is, of course, the basis of the countries founding and constitution. But who needs a constitution when you have bureaucrats and intellectuals who know what is best for everyone. Peaceful, God fearing people, need to be bold enough to question things and pray for the truth to be revealed no matter what your political persuasion. But that requires active seeking and not waiting around because by then it will be way too late.
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    Offline bighat

    Re: How long before this happens here ?
    « Reply #3 on: September 22, 2022, 09:00:38 AM »
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  • Our country was founded on religious freedom.
     
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    Offline Toro Toro Taxi

    Re: How long before this happens here ?
    « Reply #4 on: September 22, 2022, 10:24:14 AM »
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  • Our country was founded on religious freedom.

    Yes it was but unfortunately , now , if you have any kind of religious conviction , youre considered a nutjob , unless youre muslim , then youre considered persecuted. Things are being setup to have a scapegoat (conservatives or Christians ) to blame all the country and worlds problems on , and we all know how that turned out the last time . Start reading your Bible again , its literally unfolding in front of your eyes.
     
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    Offline herdorbust2

    Re: How long before this happens here ?
    « Reply #5 on: September 22, 2022, 11:22:13 AM »
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  • Our country was founded on religious freedom.

    And that is the main reason it became the greatest country ever. Why does your party try and take it out of everything?
     

    Offline bighat

    Re: How long before this happens here ?
    « Reply #6 on: September 23, 2022, 08:59:43 AM »
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  • My party wasn't there a ban on Muslims by your President.
     

    Offline 2xBison

    Re: How long before this happens here ?
    « Reply #7 on: September 23, 2022, 09:45:04 AM »
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  • My party wasn't there a ban on Muslims by your President.

    it was a handful of muslim countries that were basically failed states.  kind of hard to figure out who people are in those cases and it impacted less than 10% of the Muslim population in the world.

    the propaganda you are repeating is false, it wasn't a Muslim ban but that term is used to manipulate useful idiots.  and, it works.  here you are years later repeating it, just like foolish people that repeat Trump's a Russian asset after it's been proven our own gov, the DNC etc are the ones that worked with Russians on this hoax.

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    Offline herdorbust2

    Re: How long before this happens here ?
    « Reply #8 on: September 23, 2022, 10:39:07 AM »
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  • it was a handful of muslim countries that were basically failed states.  kind of hard to figure out who people are in those cases and it impacted less than 10% of the Muslim population in the world.

    the propaganda you are repeating is false, it wasn't a Muslim ban but that term is used to manipulate useful idiots.  and, it works.  here you are years later repeating it, just like foolish people that repeat Trump's a Russian asset after it's been proven our own gov, the DNC etc are the ones that worked with Russians on this hoax.

    I like your phrase useful idiots because that is spot on. Anything the democrats or media says they run with it. Kind of like Biden reading a teleprompter and saying coma, period and end of quote.
     
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    Re: How long before this happens here ?
    « Reply #9 on: September 23, 2022, 12:10:34 PM »
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  • Winston referred to it as "The Human Soundtrack"
     
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    Offline Toro Toro Taxi

    Re: How long before this happens here ?
    « Reply #10 on: September 23, 2022, 12:22:12 PM »
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  • Dem followers believe whatever the media and Hollywood tells them. It was Russia Russia Russia , Muslim ban , stolen nuclear codes or any other catastrophic threat to democracy they can come up with.
     
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    Offline bighat

    Re: How long before this happens here ?
    « Reply #11 on: September 23, 2022, 01:11:16 PM »
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  • And you guys don't use those tactics.  LOL
     

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    Offline bighat

    Re: How long before this happens here ?
    « Reply #12 on: September 23, 2022, 01:12:41 PM »
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  • I can just think it and it becomes declassified.  Now who's the idiot.
     

    Offline herdorbust2

    Re: How long before this happens here ?
    « Reply #13 on: September 23, 2022, 02:22:13 PM »
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  • And you guys don't use those tactics.  LOL

    Tell us when? Hillary was the one colluding and a trump got investigated. Biden was the one that said fire that sob before you get your money and Trump was the one impeached for saying check into your corruption. Hillary destroys phones and 30,000 emails after subpoena and Trump gets his house raided. The FBI has Hunters laptop and it?s been confirmed Biden lied about his connections and Trump has charges brought against him and his family?s business. They keep going after Trump with nothing there just to try and damage him for 24.
     

    Offline chris88

    Re: How long before this happens here ?
    « Reply #14 on: September 23, 2022, 06:47:10 PM »
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  • Tell us when? Hillary was the one colluding and a trump got investigated. Biden was the one that said fire that sob before you get your money and Trump was the one impeached for saying check into your corruption. Hillary destroys phones and 30,000 emails after subpoena and Trump gets his house raided. The FBI has Hunters laptop and it?s been confirmed Biden lied about his connections and Trump has charges brought against him and his family?s business. They keep going after Trump with nothing there just to try and damage him for 24.

    And why?  Why do they fear DT so much. Because he is a threat to the entrenched power structure in place in Washington (both parties) and around the world. If you read the WEF plans it is one centered on population reduction/control.  Why is Bill Gates the largest farmland owner in the US? They want to control what and how much is farmed and they don't want meat either. But none of these people want to be exposed and they don't want the grift to end.

    If any person believes in religious freedom they would be upset that DHS and other departments single out those believing Revelations as potential "domestic terrorists".  That they have already taken that step gives you a preview of what happens down the road.

    IMO, we haven't seen the end of the short term desperation.  DT set their agenda back at least 5 years.  If GOP retakes house and senate there is going to be a lot exposed they don't want exposed and they are afraid the sheep will start to wake up. The GOP Rhinos etc are afraid they will be displaced by people who really want to represent their districts. A war with Russia or China may still be in the offing if they think they will lose in Nov. and/or 2024. If not war, look for some other manufactured crisis like Jan 6. If DT is re elected in 2024 the roof on a lot of this corruption is going to come off. People who seek the truth need to stay calm and not take the bait because they use the words "existential threat" or something similar to get people to acquiesce to authority and control.

    9/11 was used to get people to accept NEC spying on citizens and Patriot Act, for example (GOP).  They have used the virus and Jan 6 in the same way to get people to restrict or give up their rights and demonize opposition (remember how unvaxxed were characterized and shunned during pandemic?). They will continue to push narratives (like anti-Maga, climate deniers etc) to get people to give up 1st and 2nd amendment rights..among others and silence/punish opposition (like they did to REAL doctors who had opposing views and like they are trying to do to anyone who supports DT). They want you to trade freedom for their version of security that protects you from all the "dangerous" boogeymen (like the Jews in Nazi Germany)..while their goal is, in reality, Orwellian control.  Watch, in time, how many people will accept, if not wholly embrace, the idea of microchip implants, social credit scores, bank account monitoring and eventually identifying cards/marks that separate those who comply and those who don't. Just like they did with the virus.  BTW, all of these things have already been suggested in one form or another and all by leftists and leftist politicians.
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    Government is the most dangerous institution known to man. Throughout history it has violated the rights of men more than any individual or group of individuals could do: it has killed people, enslaved them, sent them to forced labor and concentration camps, and regularly robbed and pillaged them of the fruits of their expended labor. ~ JOHN HOSPERS
     
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    Offline beau42m

    Re: How long before this happens here ?
    « Reply #15 on: September 24, 2022, 04:18:45 PM »
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  • Interesting, I didn?t realize this board existed. Now I can understand the political views of those posting on the sports board.
     

    Offline 2xBison

    Re: How long before this happens here ?
    « Reply #16 on: September 27, 2022, 08:22:37 AM »
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  • I can just think it and it becomes declassified.  Now who's the idiot.

    that was probably a little too much for you to handle but he's basically right and you are still falling for BS.  the President is the sole, final determiner if anything is classified or not, he can declassify with written words, spoken words, and actions.

    do you ever wonder why there are nonstop investigations and alleged crimes for this political outsider while no one in govt or DNC is really held accountable or even investigated?  are you not the least bit curious and have you thought if this is good for the country?  I mean you can still not like Trump and see this if there is a chance for you at all.
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    Re: How long before this happens here ?
    « Reply #17 on: September 27, 2022, 08:56:18 AM »
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  • that was probably a little too much for you to handle but he's basically right and you are still falling for BS.  the President is the sole, final determiner if anything is classified or not, he can declassify with written words, spoken words, and actions.

    do you ever wonder why there are nonstop investigations and alleged crimes for this political outsider while no one in govt or DNC is really held accountable or even investigated?  are you not the least bit curious and have you thought if this is good for the country?  I mean you can still not like Trump and see this if there is a chance for you at all.

    Two Minutes Hate approaching 7 years. Hard to be curious when you can't get past the propaganda.
     
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    Offline bighat

    Re: How long before this happens here ?
    « Reply #18 on: September 27, 2022, 11:32:07 AM »
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  • Drink the Kool-Aid.
     

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