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Offline Toro Toro Taxi

Re: Arizona election audit
« Reply #100 on: November 10, 2021, 03:06:15 PM »
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  • Trump lost.

    He sure did , thats why we are all paying higher gas prices , higher heating prices , out of control inflation , open borders and higher crime rates among other things , its all Bidens. I say its going to be time soon to bring back the misery index , Im sure we all remember that .
     

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    Offline Toro Toro Taxi

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    « Reply #101 on: November 10, 2021, 07:37:09 PM »
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  • https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-jersey-dem-leader-steve-sweeney-refuses-concede-ballots-found

    I say the D will end up winning since "ballots" are still coming in , a week after the election.

    The D concedes election to the truck driver , good for him. This election result is a preview of things to come for the
    Dem/Socialists , its going to be a blood bath , theyll lose all majorites they have now , and then some
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    Offline mckayt

    Re: Arizona election audit
    « Reply #102 on: November 10, 2021, 11:02:11 PM »
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  • He sure did , thats why we are all paying higher gas prices , higher heating prices , out of control inflation , open borders and higher crime rates among other things , its all Bidens. I say its going to be time soon to bring back the misery index , Im sure we all remember that .

    What causes inflation?  How quickly do we see the effects of the causes of inflation?  I'm interested in hearing what your thoughts are regarding what caused the higher gas prices, higher heating prices (who is heating right now anyway? Are we actually seeing higher heating prices?), out of control inflation, border issues, crime rates, etc.

    I'm really interested in hearing which policies caused all of these problems. 
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    Offline pdunn

    Re: Arizona election audit
    « Reply #103 on: November 11, 2021, 01:28:25 AM »
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  • What causes inflation?  How quickly do we see the effects of the causes of inflation?  I'm interested in hearing what your thoughts are regarding what caused the higher gas prices, higher heating prices (who is heating right now anyway? Are we actually seeing higher heating prices?), out of control inflation, border issues, crime rates, etc.

    I'm really interested in hearing which policies caused all of these problems.

    I think you already know the answers to your own questions.

    As far as energy costs go, we are no longer energy independent.  Less supply is available because we have stopped producing our own energy.  That causes prices to increase.   If you want to have these kinds of policies, people are going to freeze to death in the dark.  At least be honest about it and not incredulous and say "wow, why is this happening?"

    As far as the border goes, the Biden administration is ENCOURAGING exactly what we are seeing.  The remain in Mexico policy was a legitimate solution to the issue, they have abandoned it.

    Crime rates are increasing because we have had a lax attitude towards prosecution and punishment of crime, and also because we have a cultural shift that excuses some types of crime as excusable.

    To your biggest question, we have inflation because demand is outstripping supply, and also because our government continues to spend more money that continues to devalue the value of our currency.  For the former, the excuse of the Covid pandemic is becoming less and less valid, with 70% of the population vaccinated and even more people having greater immunity with exposure we are at or close to herd immunity; unfortunately incentivizing lack of productivity has become a policy; we are paying people for being non-productive; for the latter, the government continues to spend money that it doesn't have for thing that are not needed. 

    As to how quickly these things happen, they can be slow, but unfortunately our government is doing nothing that would either cure the issues or prevent them from getting worse.

    This is the government that the majority of Americans voted for.  It's going to be a long, hard winter.  Reap what you have sown, America.
    "On rainy days, the early justices would enliven case conferences with wine. On other days, even if the sun was shining, Chief Justice John Marshall would order wine anyway, saying, 'Our jurisdiction is so vast that it must be raining somewhere.' "
     

    Offline mckayt

    Re: Arizona election audit
    « Reply #104 on: November 11, 2021, 08:36:56 AM »
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  • I think you already know the answers to your own questions.

    As far as energy costs go, we are no longer energy independent.  Less supply is available because we have stopped producing our own energy.  That causes prices to increase.   If you want to have these kinds of policies, people are going to freeze to death in the dark.  At least be honest about it and not incredulous and say "wow, why is this happening?"

    As far as the border goes, the Biden administration is ENCOURAGING exactly what we are seeing.  The remain in Mexico policy was a legitimate solution to the issue, they have abandoned it.

    Crime rates are increasing because we have had a lax attitude towards prosecution and punishment of crime, and also because we have a cultural shift that excuses some types of crime as excusable.

    To your biggest question, we have inflation because demand is outstripping supply, and also because our government continues to spend more money that continues to devalue the value of our currency.  For the former, the excuse of the Covid pandemic is becoming less and less valid, with 70% of the population vaccinated and even more people having greater immunity with exposure we are at or close to herd immunity; unfortunately incentivizing lack of productivity has become a policy; we are paying people for being non-productive; for the latter, the government continues to spend money that it doesn't have for thing that are not needed. 

    As to how quickly these things happen, they can be slow, but unfortunately our government is doing nothing that would either cure the issues or prevent them from getting worse.

    This is the government that the majority of Americans voted for.  It's going to be a long, hard winter.  Reap what you have sown, America.

    I appreciate your thorough explanation.  I don't necessarily agree with everything you said, but I appreciate your thoughts nonetheless. In regard to the comment, "it's all Biden's fault" from the individual I was responding too previously, this is a pretty good opinion (IMO) from today's CGM:

    https://www.wvgazettemail.com/opinion/op_ed_commentaries/eric-engle-blaming-biden-for-inflation-is-dishonest-opinion/article_c2d322be-7009-5c2c-a790-8de1e4a9549f.html?utm_source=wvgazettemail.com&utm_campaign=%2Fnewsletters%2Fwvamupdate%2F%3F-dc%3D1636626622&utm_medium=email&utm_content=headline
     

    Online bighat

    Re: Arizona election audit
    « Reply #105 on: November 11, 2021, 09:06:48 AM »
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  • Producing our own energy and dipping gasoline prices actually started under Obama.
     

    Offline Toro Toro Taxi

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    « Reply #106 on: November 11, 2021, 09:15:36 AM »
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  • Biden has made the US energy dependent again , He has cut down our own supply and is rumored to be planning on shutting down another pipeline , all the time while begging OPEC to ramp up production . The US cant run on windmills and solar panels like his environmentalists buddies want.

    Border crisis is all Biden , he opened the floodgates for illegals , not just Mexican , to flood into the country . Trumps border policy might not have been 100% effective , but it worked . Bidens pals are now wanting to give illegals seperated under Trump big cash payouts , brilliant plan.

    Crime is on Biden and hid D buddies . They have given free passes to commit crimes without consequence , trash police and blame the victim mentality . Its been going on in Dem run cities the last few years .

    The over spending of money is on both sides imo . The RS & Ds do it way to much . The Covid payouts were a big mistake , Trumps too ,  paying people not to work is a big mistake .

    This trillion dollar fiasco they just passed will more than likely cost me my job , its going to tax the products we make to the point nobody will be able to afford them but guess what , China makes the same thing so they will be more than happy to take over . People generally have no basic economic sense or how stuff works . China is going to come out smelling like a rose with all this spending we plan on doing .

    The US is turning into a modern version of ancient Rome .



     

    Online bighat

    Re: Arizona election audit
    « Reply #107 on: November 11, 2021, 09:43:36 AM »
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  • Toro, I agree with you more than you think and I agree that the overspending is a big problem.  Conservative Republicans were conservative on fiscal policy but in under the previous president went hog wild on spending.  The big tax cut that the majority of Americans did not want and the giving away of money for COVID caused some of the inflation and the Democrats followed up with another spending package.  The tariffs did not help.  The in your face attitude of our former president to our allies did not help.  But I am not giving a pass to Biden.  The pipelines and the border problems have been caused by Biden.  The infrastructure bill should have been before the COVID money in my opinion.  The infrastructure bill would have created jobs and built up our crumbling infrastructure.  I like to goad you guys but I also listen to you.  We are currently governing from the extremes and not from the middle.  I am a middle guy and I don't believe in conspiracies unless they proven not to be conspiracies.
     
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    Offline pdunn

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    « Reply #108 on: November 11, 2021, 02:32:17 PM »
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  • There is no doubt that coming out of this pandemic would be difficult for anyone in the White House.  My problem with the current president and all of his executive agencies is that they seem completely tone deaf about the means to improve the situation and are tied to an agenda that often tends to just throw fuel on the fire.  We produced our own oil and could distribute it a year ago, that isn't happening now.  The Remain in Mexico policy worked, the White House abandoned it by fiat and put no plan in place that was better or even effective at all.  I certainly hope that the rationale for doing some of these things wasn't that they were "Trump's idea" and nothing else, if they worked.
    "On rainy days, the early justices would enliven case conferences with wine. On other days, even if the sun was shining, Chief Justice John Marshall would order wine anyway, saying, 'Our jurisdiction is so vast that it must be raining somewhere.' "
     

    Offline mckayt

    Re: Arizona election audit
    « Reply #109 on: November 11, 2021, 04:13:08 PM »
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  • This trillion dollar fiasco they just passed will more than likely cost me my job

    I hope that doesn't happen
     

    Offline Toro Toro Taxi

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    « Reply #110 on: November 12, 2021, 06:08:31 AM »
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  • I hope that doesn't happen

    Thank ya , me too !
     

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    Online bighat

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    « Reply #112 on: November 12, 2021, 04:21:44 PM »
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  • This stupid waste of money is also a factor in inflation.  I wonder how much is being spent to try to overturn the election.  You have the pillow guy who I personally have met spending millions on this waste.  This is a waste of time and money.  This all sowing unrest just to have unrest.  This will come back to bite.  If you lay with fleas you are going to get bit.
     
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