Post by: Flat Tire 2 on January 23, 2024, 08:22:43 AM
Post by: 2xBison on January 23, 2024, 09:33:34 AM
I hope people realize it isn't left vs right, R vs D, lib vs con, but the Uniparty and their globalist allies that we should all be against. Give the country back to the will of the people and we can get back to arguing over taxes, killing babies, what rest room to use, public education, peace, and secure borders but for now...we should be worried about getting all those Uni Party Swamp rats from both sides of the aisle out of Washington. they represent other interests, not those of the American people/taxpayer.
Post by: Buffalo Bop on January 23, 2024, 10:24:12 AM
Post by: 2xBison on January 23, 2024, 11:59:29 AM
When Tucker left Fox, that's when I left it too.
good choice although I left before that. I still enjoyed a Tucker clip or two. Oh well....if you don't get on board with the company line you get cancelled. same for media, gov bureaucrats, entertainers and politicians...well, the politicians aren't necessarily cancelled but there are various ways to control them or get rid of.
Post by: Flat Tire 2 on January 23, 2024, 12:58:05 PM
I remember hearing Rush say that Rupert Murdock's son's wives were big into the NYC social scene and would force their husbands to change Fox News when they took over.
I am not saying Fox was perfect, but it did give viewers an alternative narrative on the news. A friend of my who had a distinguish newspaper career use to say if you listen to NPR and Fox and the truth was in somewhere in the middle. LOL
Post by: carolinaherdfan on January 24, 2024, 11:27:29 AM
Maybe Fox News started to lose i's way when Roger Ailes (Ohio U grad) was let go? Losing Bill O'Reilly at Fox didn't help them.
I remember hearing Rush say that Rupert Murdock's son's wives were big into the NYC social scene and would force their husbands to change Fox News when they took over.
I am not saying Fox was perfect, but it did give viewers an alternative narrative on the news. A friend of my who had a distinguish newspaper career use to say if you listen to NPR and Fox and the truth was in somewhere in the middle. LOL
I'd say your friend has pretty much found a good place to land...between NPR and Fox, is America...
Post by: 2xBison on January 24, 2024, 03:13:50 PM
Maybe Fox News started to lose i's way when Roger Ailes (Ohio U grad) was let go? Losing Bill O'Reilly at Fox didn't help them.
I remember hearing Rush say that Rupert Murdock's son's wives were big into the NYC social scene and would force their husbands to change Fox News when they took over.
I am not saying Fox was perfect, but it did give viewers an alternative narrative on the news. A friend of my who had a distinguish newspaper career use to say if you listen to NPR and Fox and the truth was in somewhere in the middle. LOL
When Fox called the corrupt AZ election very early in the day... you kind of knew where they stand.
They feed us things to distract and opine over.....all while our country is fleeced, wealth extracted for forever wars and we are totally taken for granted...........oh well. hope for the best.
Post by: marshallmark on January 24, 2024, 03:21:58 PM
When Fox called the corrupt AZ election very early in the day... you kind of knew where they stand.
Currupt? Just because you say its so, or even believe its so, doesn't make it so. Why is it so hard for conspiracy hunters to accept that Trump lost to Biden, not because of anything special that Biden did or is but, rather, because Trump so infuriates people that they come out in droves to make sure he doesn't get elected? I'm not a fan of the current POTUS, but geez Louise I'd vote for a monkey before I'd vote for DJT.
https://www.npr.org/2021/09/25/1040672550/az-audit (https://www.npr.org/2021/09/25/1040672550/az-audit)
https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2022/04/07/arizona-election-fraud-finally-uncovered-mark-brnovich-investigation/9501380002/ (https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2022/04/07/arizona-election-fraud-finally-uncovered-mark-brnovich-investigation/9501380002/)
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/24/politics/arizona-election-review-results/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/24/politics/arizona-election-review-results/index.html)
Post by: bighat on January 24, 2024, 03:27:21 PM
Post by: Buffalo Bop on January 24, 2024, 05:01:43 PM
Some people are delusional. They believe anything that matches their truth.
The pot calling the kettle black.
Post by: bighat on January 25, 2024, 09:21:18 AM
Post by: marshallmark on January 25, 2024, 09:31:33 AM
Once again truth is in the eye of the beholder.
Truth is truth.
Some people just don't want to see it. Or, more likely, they're misled by agenda-fueled cable "news" channel(s)
Post by: Flat Tire 2 on January 25, 2024, 09:40:22 AM
It would be nice to have news media that is not agenda driven. JMO.
Post by: carolinaherdfan on January 25, 2024, 10:52:30 AM
We need to be liberal in our views to continue to grow and move forward as a leader in the world.
We always have to continue to be flexible and compassionate as a nation.
Yet, we definitely do not need to destroy or desecrate the lives of so many who have been sacrificed (who have died) to give us the America we now are in the process of restructuring into a future whatever to placate the rest of the world...we can't continue as a leader if we turn America into Europe...
We need and deserve a better, effective and more honest leadership...!
Post by: marshallmark on January 25, 2024, 11:04:09 AM
These charts do a good job of alerting consumers about the inherent biases of their news sources. I don't fault someone for watching, for instance, CNN or Fox News as long as they understand that they're in a proverbial echo chamber and the 'news' spouted by these sources isn't necessarily fair, balanced or even accurate. And, for gosh sakes, can we stop labeling what these channels put out after 6 as "news"? Its entertainment...nothing more... and is geared toward people that want to be be fed the misinformation that Sean, Tucker, Wolf, Rachel, et al. are more than happy to offer.
Post by: carolinaherdfan on January 25, 2024, 11:47:09 AM
I believe it's fairly accurate...
Post by: herdorbust2 on January 26, 2024, 10:53:57 AM
Currupt? Just because you say its so, or even believe its so, doesn't make it so. Why is it so hard for conspiracy hunters to accept that Trump lost to Biden, not because of anything special that Biden did or is but, rather, because Trump so infuriates people that they come out in droves to make sure he doesn't get elected? I'm not a fan of the current POTUS, but geez Louise I'd vote for a monkey before I'd vote for DJT.
https://www.npr.org/2021/09/25/1040672550/az-audit (https://www.npr.org/2021/09/25/1040672550/az-audit)
https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2022/04/07/arizona-election-fraud-finally-uncovered-mark-brnovich-investigation/9501380002/ (https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2022/04/07/arizona-election-fraud-finally-uncovered-mark-brnovich-investigation/9501380002/)
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/24/politics/arizona-election-review-results/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/24/politics/arizona-election-review-results/index.html)
I'll take Trumps 3 years before the pandemic every time over dementia joes 3 years anytime. Not even close. But boo hoo he sends mean tweets!!! I care more about what the country is doing than what they are tweeting but some people are too ignorant to see it. Let's talk about foreign affairs and wars? What about the cost of gas and food? How about the border? But Trump isn't nice lmao!!!
Post by: bighat on January 26, 2024, 12:17:34 PM
He calls military veterans losers. He calls war heros and walking wounded losers. He makes fun of disabled people. That is truth. You just don't want to hear it even if you hear for your self.
Post by: herdorbust2 on January 26, 2024, 02:26:27 PM
The man said he grabbed women in the crotch. He admitted he did other criminal activities. He said he will be a dictator from day one. This is out of his own mouth.
He calls military veterans losers. He calls war heros and walking wounded losers. He makes fun of disabled people. That is truth. You just don't want to hear it even if you hear for your self.
You are a liar. He said he would be a dictator for ONE DAY!!! And that is to close the border and drill baby drill. But I'm sure that pissed you libcoms off.
Post by: GreenWhite on January 26, 2024, 02:30:06 PM
Post by: Flat Tire 2 on January 26, 2024, 02:52:58 PM
The man said he grabbed women in the crotch.
I guess Bill Clinton lowered the bar for sexual assaulting women? I guess a lot of presidential candidates like to grab women private parts.
We have the below on Biden from that right wing media source NPR.
New Information Emerges Around Biden Sexual Assault Allegation
"I do remember her telling me that Joe Biden had put her up against a wall and had put his hands up her skirt and had put his fingers inside her," LaCasse said. Reade, as detailed in a previous NPR report, has accused Biden of pinning her against a wall in the hallway of a Capitol Hill building and penetrating her vagina with his fingers in the spring of 1993."
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/29/847840765/new-information-emerges-around-biden-sexual-assault-allegation
Post by: Flat Tire 2 on January 26, 2024, 02:56:57 PM
I started watching Newsnation. Felt like it was a source without an agenda. Just give me the news. Problem is, it's not a 24 hours news station (maybe that's a good thing). I've turned it over there and reruns of Blue Bloods would be on. I stopped watching Fox a long time ago. I'm a conservative but even they went too far. Same reason I stopped watching other news networks. Just too much drivel and no news reporting. It's like MSNBC, Fox, CNN, Newsmax and others are nothing more than editorial networks.
I watch very little cable news networks. I have watched Newsnation and it is not as agenda driven as most of the networks. Bill O'Reilly also seems very objective with the news, but his commentary is Libertarian and he calls out the left and right.
Post by: bighat on January 26, 2024, 03:48:58 PM
Post by: GreenWhite on January 26, 2024, 03:52:29 PM
I watch very little cable news networks. I have watched Newsnation and it is not as agenda driven as most of the networks. Bill O'Reilly also seems very objective with the news, but his commentary is Libertarian and he calls out the left and right.Both the left and the right have issues. All politicians have an agenda.
Post by: herdorbust2 on January 26, 2024, 04:33:20 PM
Most presidents don't brag about it.
Yea it's much better they just lie. "I never had sexual relations with that woman" lmao!!!!
Post by: 2xBison on January 27, 2024, 07:56:39 AM
Logically, you are asking us to accept that the election was valid because the media/doj/fbi say so. These are the same people that pushed the phony Russia hoax for years!! It's proven. So forgive us if we don't just accept it.
If you are such an ideologue you can't even question how a guy that doesn't draw crowds got 81 million votes (a record) in an unusual election year with unprecedented mail in balllots, that's on you.
Also just because media doesn't cover doesn't mean it didn't happen, it means you might be being herded like a sheep.
Lastly, you don't find it odd that bell weather stats went out the window in 2020 with Trump winning 18/19 bell weather counties? Not odd that several (necessary) swing state with independent elections all stopped counting? Then all have same directional change after counting started again?
A vote isn't just a piece of paper, it needs a person behind it.
The fascist are still trying to jail Trump cause they didn't beat him in 16, 20, and can't beat him in 2024.
I'm sure some normal Germans fell for the censorship, identity politics, jailed opponents, and Gestapo (fbi) in the 30s too.
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Post by: 2xBison on January 27, 2024, 08:06:22 AM
The man said he grabbed women in the crotch. He admitted he did other criminal activities. He said he will be a dictator from day one. This is out of his own mouth.Read this guys comments, he's straight up ideologue. This is the kind of guy the puppet masters love. He says all that while supporting the worst and most corrupt president ever.
He calls military veterans losers. He calls war heros and walking wounded losers. He makes fun of disabled people. That is truth. You just don't want to hear it even if you hear for your self.
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Post by: 2xBison on January 27, 2024, 08:11:23 AM
Both the left and the right have issues. All politicians have an agenda.It's a swamp. The uniparty. How else to you explain the reaction to Trumps win in 2016? It's been nonstop ever since. They did worse than watergate with the spying, illegal FISA warrants, and Russia hoax. Hey is that election interference or an attempted coup? Media screams it for years, no one held accountable we just move on to next hoax and herd the gullible sheep right along as the country is fleeced.
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Post by: 2xBison on January 27, 2024, 08:13:34 AM
Truth is truth.(https://media1.giphy.com/media/10JhviFuU2gWD6/giphy.gif)
Some people just don't want to see it. Or, more likely, they're misled by agenda-fueled cable "news" channel(s)
I totally agree and the words coming from you make it even better!
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Post by: marshallmark on January 29, 2024, 10:07:22 PM
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I totally agree and the words coming from you make it even better!
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Where do you get your news? Without even knowing you, I'd guess Fox News and Newsmax. Fox News didn't settle the Dominion Voting case for $787.5 million because it thought it was telling people the truth. Even Sean Hannity has said Biden won https://www.npr.org/2022/12/22/1144926308/fox-news-sean-hannity-dominion-lawsuit-trump (https://www.npr.org/2022/12/22/1144926308/fox-news-sean-hannity-dominion-lawsuit-trump)
If you're still holding on to the old, disproved-in-every-court argument that the Dems cheated to win, well then I can't help you.
Post by: 2xBison on January 30, 2024, 11:30:55 AM
Let me ask you this Counselor, since they settled didn't that prevent any details and discovery, if Fox (who I've said myself I don't trust and is on the same side) wanted to fight?
Lastly, since you asked me, I'll ask you some things. Explain to me why the laws of statistics no longer apply in swing states? Either the likelihood of several independent state elections stopping and starting counting the same way? Further more with exact same directional change. It was like flipping a coin all night and coming up 52%-48%, then continuing to flip after counting stop and suddenly 97% or whatever to 3%. So mail in votes behave differently? Or Biden supporters are just more prone to vote by mail?
Why do historical election stats suddenly not apply? Trump got more votes than any incumbent in history? Well "son of a bitch" to quote Joe, Biden got 81 million?
How did Biden win the least amount of counties in history but set voting record? What 477 to Obamas >800? I get Ds get urban areas but that's strange and a record too.
You are about as curious as the "media".
If you are going to cling to "most safe and secure election" ever --all with unusual changes in bell weather stats and other historical election trends--while at same time record mail in votes. Well I can't help you.
I also can't help you if you don't trust statistics.
Oh and to the disproved in every court. I don't have stats handy but only a small portion of the cases were heard/decide. Most the court declined. Just like everyone was all for recounts but fight forensic audits. Strange
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Post by: marshallmark on January 30, 2024, 12:11:03 PM
I'm not holding on to that. I told you I thought Fox was in on it.
Let me ask you this Counselor, since they settled didn't that prevent any details and discovery, if Fox (who I've said myself I don't trust and is on the same side) wanted to fight? NO, LOTS OF DEPOSITIONS WERE TAKEN BEFORE THE SETTLEMENT. THE INFORMATION OBTAINED THROUGH THOSE DEPOSITIONS IS WHAT GOT TUCKER CARLSON FIRED AND WHY FOX HAD EGG ON ITS COLLECTIVE FACE B/C MOST OF ITS 'TALENT' HAD PRIVATELY AGREED BIDEN HAD WON, PLUS SEVERAL OTHER DAMNING ADMISSIONS
Lastly, since you asked me, I'll ask you some things. Explain to me why the laws of statistics no longer apply in swing states? Either the likelihood of several independent state elections stopping and starting counting the same way? Further more with exact same directional change. It was like flipping a coin all night and coming up 52%-48%, then continuing to flip after counting stop and suddenly 97% or whatever to 3%. So mail in votes behave differently? Or Biden supporters are just more prone to vote by mail? BIDEN SUPPORTERS WERE CERTAINLY MORE PRONE TO VOTE BY MAIL. POORER VOTERS AND VOTERS OF COLOR TRADITIONALLY VOTE BY MAIL MORE OFTEN. PLUS, RECALL THAT DJT WAS ENCOURAGING HIS FOLLOWERS TO NOT TRUST THE MAIL AND TO VOTE IN PERSON - THAT HAD A HUGE AFFECT
Why do historical election stats suddenly not apply? Trump got more votes than any incumbent in history? Well "son of a bitch" to quote Joe, Biden got 81 million? ABSOLUTLEY. TURNOUT IN METROPOLITAN AREAS WAS HUGE AND WENT FOR BIDEN BY DOUBLE DIGITS. VOTERS IN PHILLY AND PITTSBURGH WON PA FOR BIDEN; FLAGSTAFF AND TUCSON WON AZ FOR BIDEN; ATLANTA/SAVANNAH WON GEORGIA FOR BIDEN; DETROIT WENT 2+ TO 1 FOR BIDEN AND WON HIM MICHIGAN; FAIRFAX/RICHMOND/NEWPORT NEWS WON VIRGINIA FOR BIDEN.
How did Biden win the least amount of counties in history but set voting record? What 477 to Obamas >800? I get Ds get urban areas but that's strange and a record too. IF YOU LOOK AT 2016 TO 2020, TRUMP DID BETTER IN THE RURAL COUNTIES THAT HE WON IN 2016, BUT DID MUCH, MUCH WORSE IN THE URBAN AND, FATALLY, THE SUBERBS THAT HE KEPT COMPETITIVE IN 2016. HE LOST SOCCER MOMS AND WASN'T COMPETITIVE WITH PEOPLE OF COLOR IN 2020. I KEEP NOTING THAT NOTHING MOTIVATED INDEPENDENTS AND PASSIVE DEMOCRATS TO VOTE MORE THAN DJT DID IN 2020. HE'S A VILE PERSON AND PEOPLE FLOCKED TO THE POLLS TO KEEP HIM FROM WINNING. HE'S A TERRIFIC MOTIVATING FACTOR.
You are about as curious as the "media".
If you are going to cling to "most safe and secure election" ever --all with unusual changes in bell weather stats and other historical election trends--while at same time record mail in votes. Well I can't help you. TRENDS ARE JUST THAT... TRENDS. TRUMP TURNED TRENDS ON THEIR PROVERBIAL EAR FOR HIMSELF IN 2016 AND AGAINST HIM IN 2020.
I also can't help you if you don't trust statistics.
Oh and to the disproved in every court. I don't have stats handy but only a small portion of the cases were heard/decide. Most the court declined. Just like everyone was all for recounts but fight forensic audits. Strange SOME DID DECLINE, BUT MOST TOOK A LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE AVAILABLE AND PRESENTED AND JUST DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING. THAT'S WHY THE TRUMP LEGAL TEAM KEPT GETTING SANCTIONED - B/C THEY DIDN'T BACK UP THEIR ALLEGATIONS WITH EVIDENCE (BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ANY). NO JUDGE WOULD SANCTION AN ATTORNEY FOR SIMPLY FILING A COMPLAINT THAT THE COURT DECLINED TO HEAR. AND RECALL THAT REPUBLICAN SECRETARY OF STATE IN GA GOT DEATH THREATS B/C HE CERTIFIED THAT THE ELECTION WAS FAIR IN THAT STATE. RUDY GOT BANKRUPTED BECAUSE HE MADE VISCOUS, FALSE STATEMENTS AGAINST POLL WORKERS AND THEY CALLED HIM ON IT. CRAZY SIDNEY POWELL CAN'T PRACTICE LAW ANYMORE B/C OF THE LIES SHE TOLD ON TRUMP'S BEHALF. HIS ONLY COMPETENT COUNSEL - JOSEPH TACOPINA - QUIT BEFORE HIS LATEST TRIAL TO FOLLOW HIS 'COMPASS' AND FOR 'PERSONAL REASONS'...THAT'S LAWYER-SPEAK FOR 'MY CLIENT WAS GOING TO LIE AND I COULDN'T KEEP HIM FROM DOING IT'. HIS CURRENT LAWYER, ALINNA HABBA, DID NOT EVEN KNOW HOW TO MOVE THE ADMISSION OF EVIDENCE, AND THE JUDGE HAD TO SPOON FEED HER THE PROCEDURE. WE ALL LEARNED THAT IN FIRST YEAR OF LAW SCHOOL. PERHAPS HE WANTS TO APPEAL ON INEFFECTIVENESS OF COUNSEL, BUT THAT WON'T GO ANYWHERE. HE'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO LOSE IN THE CIVIL CASES, AND ALTHOUGH IT WILL BE MORE DIFFICULT, HE'S GOT A LOT OF ISSUES WITH JACK SMITH'S CASE THAT COULD EASILY SEE HIM CONVICTED.
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Post by: 2xBison on January 30, 2024, 01:26:57 PM
You had your position a long time. I have at least changed mine over the years. Don't believe your lying eyes.
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Post by: marshallmark on January 30, 2024, 01:51:25 PM
We agree to disagree. I'm going with what I see and know, not what I'm told by people that have lied to me for years.
You had your position a long time. I have at least changed mine over the years. Don't believe your lying eyes.
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I voted for Reagan, Bush, Bush, Bush, and McCain. I'm no liberal, fwiw.
My vote this year will be for anyone other than Trump. Don't care who it is.
Post by: bighat on January 30, 2024, 04:09:39 PM
Post by: 2xBison on January 30, 2024, 08:44:18 PM
It,s that fuzzy math you guys use. You stop counting before all the votes are counted."Votes"
The only funny math I see is waiting to see how many votes you need before completing the count.
MM sounds like you got one right as did I. But, based on looking to reaction to Trump in 16 to now. It's clear to me the establishment needs someone beholden to them, whether by lobbyist, donor money, or black mail.
To me it's not hard to see. One guy with a great life of luxury, giving that up and working for free, losing net worth, nonstop attacks on him and family coupled with political prosecution OR pick from those getting rich, increasing net worth and destroying the country while welcoming war.
Best of luck to all of us.
Who would have thought one could go from voting Reagan to fulfilling Reagan's prediction "if fascism comes to America it will come as liberalism" as he supports the political prosecution of a candidate
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Post by: bighat on January 31, 2024, 01:32:07 PM
Post by: 2xBison on January 31, 2024, 02:18:34 PM
He is only losing net worth that he made up.
no hope for you. (https://media0.giphy.com/media/Txun6ahh9auWs/giphy.gif)
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Post by: Buffalo Bop on February 02, 2024, 07:31:50 PM
This is but a tip of the iceberg of the fraud and rigging that went on in the 2020 election.
Post by: 2xBison on February 02, 2024, 10:01:06 PM
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Post by: bighat on February 04, 2024, 04:34:48 PM
You are losing law suits for defaming people. You make a lie the truth.
Post by: 2xBison on February 05, 2024, 09:45:29 AM
Give us proof and you cannot. You and your cronies have been given ample opportunity to prove this and have not. Just because you repeat it over and over again does not make it true.51 intelligent agency officials lying about Biden laptop. FBI has had since 2018.
You are losing law suits for defaming people. You make a lie the truth.
I've already provided you information on election historical outcomes, bell weather indicators and simple laws of statistics.
Now, I know the DOJ/alphabet agencies and the media told you no evidence of fraud and it was "most safe and secure" election in history and they even coined phrase "the big lie" for the sheep. But, those are the same people that have been proven to have lied to all of us in the ridiculous Russia probe and others...
Trump set record for votes incumbent president, and despite being continuously undermined had a successful Presidency by almost every objective measure.
Now if you want to believe that Joe set record for votes for all presidential candidates ever while not drawing crowds then that's on you. Especially, during a year with unprecedented mail in votes, when the media would have you believe 8 cities in 6 states (might be off a number or two but hope you have ability to get point)were so pissed off at Trump they drove election out come to point bell weather stats did not matter, nor do the laws of statistics well that's on you.
Go ahead and keep believing these war mongering corrupt fools can change the temperature of the
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Post by: Buffalo Bop on February 05, 2024, 10:41:02 AM
https://nypost.com/2021/10/14/zuckerberg-election-spending-was-orchestrated-to-influence-2020-vote/
This is another example of the rigging that took in the 2020 Election. And don't think he spent all that fortune without certain guarantees.
If you want to have a safer and more secure election, then do away with mail-in ballots, show up on Election Day and present proof of ID.
Post by: bighat on February 05, 2024, 11:29:29 AM
Post by: 2xBison on February 05, 2024, 12:28:56 PM
Give us proof and not something that no one accepts as proof of election fraud. Concrete proof. And not the votes not counted for Biden.You ignore the laptop, you ignore the Russia and Ukraine hoaxes, you ignore unconstitutional changes to voting rules, you ignore bell weather stats, you ignore laws of statistics, you ignore unprecedented mail in voting and its risks, I can't imagine what prove we should provide you.
If we have to wait for George Stephanoplois or Rachael Maddow or Chris Wray to tell you it's going to be a while.
Tune in to cnn to watch the wars and senseless murders you support.
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Post by: bighat on February 05, 2024, 04:37:30 PM
Post by: 2xBison on February 06, 2024, 07:47:14 AM
You keep avoiding the question I asked about votes that were incorrectly counted. I you try to deflect with other items like more and more people delusionized by the the great orange god. You wait on Trump to tell you how everything is.I don't think I saw that question.
Tell me more about Trumps fake net worth that he lost?
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Post by: svherd on February 06, 2024, 08:02:38 AM
Post by: marshallmark on February 06, 2024, 10:05:16 AM
I find it funny people rag on Fox and Newsmax, yet believe CNN, MSNBC and the major networks are bastions of purity and truthfulness. LOL! They don't have an agenda at all. LOL!
Maybe I missed something, but I don't think anyone on here advanced CNN or MSNBC as bastions of truth. I posted a chart showing the relative biases of the networks, and there weren't any mainstream networks that were in the "neutral" category. Fox News and Newsmax were on the far right of the chart, and MSNBC was on the far left (with CNN in the next-to-far-left category).
My objection to Fox News and Newsmax isn't solely that they bend the news to fit their agendas, its that they censor what they show. When the E. Jean Carroll verdict came out, every single left and center network were spending perhaps inordinate amounts of time discussing its effect on Trump, his campaign and his finances. Fox News was airing a segment on whether Taylor Swift was a government plant. Dead serious. Its ludicrous the blinders they purposefully put on their viewers.
Post by: 2xBison on February 06, 2024, 12:14:33 PM
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Post by: marshallmark on February 06, 2024, 08:29:25 PM
NBC, cbs, abc, npr horrible too
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You may think so but that?s not objectively true
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Post by: 2xBison on February 07, 2024, 09:54:31 AM
How else do other wise intelligent people fall for hoaxes like the Russia Collusion, Ukraine, and Biden laptop lies? How else are otherwise intelligent people and the press not curious at all about holding those that conspired to do those things accountable.
The truth was there for years....just suppressed and the narrative pushed....and more importantly swallowed.
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Post by: biggreenarms on February 07, 2024, 11:17:52 AM
I'm not concerned about which are left or right, I'd like the truth. And I'd like the "free" press to seek the truth and challenge government as well as both parties....but it does not appear freedom of press works here anymore like the founding fathers planned. It functions more like a propaganda arm.
How else do other wise intelligent people fall for hoaxes like the Russia Collusion, Ukraine, and Biden laptop lies? How else are otherwise intelligent people and the press not curious at all about holding those that conspired to do those things accountable.
The truth was there for years....just suppressed and the narrative pushed....and more importantly swallowed.
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They haven't figured it out yet. Still stuck on tribes, right, left, center, blah, blah, blah. This side truthful, that side tells lies, blah, blah, blah. Same rhetorical garbage with no substance. They probably still read news papers. Sad.
Post by: 2xBison on February 07, 2024, 01:12:03 PM
They haven't figured it out yet. Still stuck on tribes, right, left, center, blah, blah, blah. This side truthful, that side tells lies, blah, blah, blah. Same rhetorical garbage with no substance. They probably still read news papers. Sad.Meanwhile our country fleeced and the war mongers get rich and people die.
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Post by: Buffalo Bop on February 08, 2024, 03:45:20 PM
Nothing to see here!
Post by: Buffalo Bop on February 08, 2024, 04:27:18 PM
C'mon folks, he's just an old sympathetic man with a poor memory. But let's give him a second term. LOL
Post by: marshallmark on February 09, 2024, 09:45:39 AM
https://x.com/SecretsBedard/status/1755688968404767063?s=20
C'mon folks, he's just an old sympathetic man with a poor memory. But let's give him a second term. LOL
I'd vote for Lenin in his tomb before I'd vote for the orange one.
Post by: 2xBison on February 09, 2024, 10:03:01 AM
I'd vote for Lenin in his tomb before I'd vote for the orange one.
a vote for Lenin from you is not surprising at all.
Lenin was part of the marxist/socialist movement that overthrew the Russian government. Lenin used state security services to suppress opponents via the Red Terror...it sought to eliminate political opponents and dissent. Many died, jailed and in concentration camps (is this who Hitler learned from LOL would you vote for Hitler too?)....estimates of 25-30000 deaths a year for several years.
You are what I talk about when I mention otherwise intelligent people following along and developing TDS.
You would vote for Lenin - a Marxist, totalitarian murderer over the guy that gave you no new wars, low inflation, energy independence, and secure borders. All while believing what you are fed and also believing you are smarter than the opposition (after all...the media told you that too)
Thank you for proving EXACTLY who you are.
Post by: Buffalo Bop on February 09, 2024, 10:03:27 AM
I'd vote for Lenin in his tomb before I'd vote for the orange one.
Joe Biden is a cognitive mess. He should be in a nursing home, not the WH. Terrible for our country.
Post by: bighat on February 09, 2024, 10:19:11 AM
Post by: 2xBison on February 09, 2024, 10:23:17 AM
It seems as if Trump is a cognitive mess. From US News and World, Trump's missteps, meanwhile, began to draw attention. He's made brazen factual errors, such as saying Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban was the leader of Turkey, that Orban had called on Barack Obama to step down as president (when Obama left the presidency in 2017), describing a missile launch through sound effects, and this week, claiming he had won New Hampshire in the 2016 and 2020 general elections when he lost.Baaaaaaaaa
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Post by: biggreenarms on February 09, 2024, 08:16:50 PM
I'd vote for Lenin in his tomb before I'd vote for the orange one.
Wow, So the guy that tells us he voted for Reagan, Bush, Bush, Bush and McCain would actual cast a vote for a murdering marxist? That's some serious TDS. It feels great to be a critical thinker and not beholden to any party or tribe. Must be debilitating to be mentally ass-whipped by the orange boogie man Donald Trump. I've never felt that with Clinton, Obama or Biden so I can't relate to your pain. But you guys just keep eating up all the propaganda and garbage the media serves. There's no shortage of it and the world's full of useful idiots.
Post by: 2xBison on February 10, 2024, 12:30:03 PM
Wow, So the guy that tells us he voted for Reagan, Bush, Bush, Bush and McCain would actual cast a vote for a murdering marxist? That's some serious TDS. It feels great to be a critical thinker and not beholden to any party or tribe. Must be debilitating to be mentally ass-whipped by the orange boogie man Donald Trump. I've never felt that with Clinton, Obama or Biden so I can't relate to your pain. But you guys just keep eating up all the propaganda and garbage the media serves. There's no shortage of it and the world's full of useful idiots.(https://media2.giphy.com/media/z3HFoEzXCMykr4L0TB/giphy.gif)
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Post by: 2xBison on February 11, 2024, 11:57:59 AM
Joe Biden is a cognitive mess. He should be in a nursing home, not the WH. Terrible for our country.Obviously our country is lower priority to Marxist Mark than actually realizing and accepting he's swallowed a ton of BS.
It's easier to fool people than to get them to admit they've been fooled.
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