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Off Topic & Non Sports => "Tavern Off the Green" Sports Bar => Topic started by: Flat Tire 2 on February 04, 2023, 09:08:06 AM
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I wonder if this will stop the building of the stadium or is it a political stunt?
CHARLESTON, W.Va. (WSAZ) - With an opening pitch in September and a check for $13.8 million, West Virginia Gov. Jim Justice contributed your tax dollars to help Marshall University build a long-awaited baseball stadium.
Now it?s revealed that most of that cash was once federal dollars the state received to fight COVID.
?The question becomes, ?Is this something that is appropriate??? Sen. Eric Tarr asked at a special Senate Finance Committee held Friday. ?I think that?s something I think this committee wants and needs to get to the bottom of.?
That topic was agenda item number one Friday.
The baseball contribution, actually part of a much large transfer as Justice moved more than $28 million in COVID relief to his Gifts, Grants and Donations Fund.
That Sept. 30, 2022, transaction just beat a federal deadline to spend the last of the state?s COVID allotment. Doing so ensured that West Virginia didn?t have to pay back any unused money.
The Governor?s Office contends that once those funds switched accounts, it was no longer COVID money, but state money available for use.
For more see the link:
https://www.wsaz.com/2023/02/04/senate-probes-covid-funds-used-mu-baseball-stadium/
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Eric Tarr makes disparaging remarks about Marshall on occasion.
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One could argue that building the stadium is a step towards getting back to normal and getting people together, which could also be argued as fighting the effects of COVID.
But if I was Justice I'd threaten to crawl up WVU's arse with a microscope and audit every bit of sports funding they've received. That's what this is really about. WVU wants their cut and they feel they're entitled to it. They can't stand that we got state funding they did not, despite the greater need.
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One could argue that building the stadium is a step towards getting back to normal and getting people together, which could also be argued as fighting the effects of COVID.
But if I was Justice I'd threaten to crawl up WVU's arse with a microscope and audit every bit of sports funding they've received. That's what this is really about. WVU wants their cut and they feel they're entitled to it. They can't stand that we got state funding they did not, despite the greater need.
Audit WVU, the parasitic leeches on all things West Virginia
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While I know for a fact that COVID funds have been used in a manner I personally find inappropriate, the definition of the wellbeing of a society is way beyond my scope. In my home town, they want(ed) to build an amphitheatre with the funds; a way to build community equity, equality and inclusion. Get my drift. Plus,it would put people to work (as if we have anyone left who really wants to work still needing a job).
Anyway, I don't see this issue being more than a pain in the axx for Justice and MU. Sure hope I'm right.
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Eric Tarr makes disparaging remarks about Marshall on occasion.
He's an ass. Arrogant!
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He's an ass. Arrogant!
He graduated from UK and got a MBA from Charleston. You have to wonder why he went to Harvey High to get an MBA when wvu and MU offer MBA programs in Charleston. Both are much better programs than Harvey high.
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This is why I have always hated WVU. I will never cheer for anything that has their logo on it.
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I indirectly deal with Eric Tarr and I can tell you I am not impressed. Tarr is very smart, but he is basically a front man for outside interest who want the laws for their favor. This is also a personal battle for him against Justice. The two men do not like each other and Tarr feels Justice has made it tough to get his (and outsiders) agenda through.
Randy Smith is nothing but a mouthpiece for WVU.
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Very arrogant and a WVU supporter.
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I indirectly deal with Eric Tarr and I can tell you I am not impressed. Tarr is very smart, but he is basically a front man for outside interest who want the laws for their favor. This is also a personal battle for him against Justice. The two men do not like each other and Tarr feels Justice has made it tough to get his (and outsiders) agenda through.
Randy Smith is nothing but a mouthpiece for WVU.
Surprise, surprise a senator (Smith) representing Monongalia County is questioning the expenditure along with Tarr. Link to an article about the issue.
Senators ask how $28 million in covid money went first to governor?s fund and then to baseball project
https://wvmetronews.com/2023/02/03/senators-ask-how-28-million-in-covid-money-went-first-to-governors-fund-and-then-to-baseball-project/
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Surprise, surprise a senator (Smith) representing Monongalia County is questioning the expenditure along with Tarr. Link to an article about the issue.
Senators ask how $28 million in covid money went first to governor?s fund and then to baseball project
https://wvmetronews.com/2023/02/03/senators-ask-how-28-million-in-covid-money-went-first-to-governors-fund-and-then-to-baseball-project/
F those trash bags
Go Herd!
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This Baseball stadium thing has been a joke since forever as is Justice
I don?t know of anyone that is clamoring for this thing to be built
Most are only barely lukewarm about it
Who cares if it is ever constructed
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This Baseball stadium thing has been a joke since forever as is Justice
I don?t know of anyone that is clamoring for this thing to be built
Most are only barely lukewarm about it
Who cares if it is ever constructed
Then it?s obvious you have never been to a good college baseball game. One of the few sports the NCAA hasn?t screwed up yet.
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This Baseball stadium thing has been a joke since forever as is Justice
I don?t know of anyone that is clamoring for this thing to be built
Most are only barely lukewarm about it
Who cares if it is ever constructed
You need to team up with Nick Freidlin, Hessler and the other losers at the HD and write daily letters about how it's a waste of time and money. Do you get out of mommies basement much?
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This is why I have always hated WVU. I will never cheer for anything that has their logo on it.
And if this money had gone to a similar project at WVU, bust, there would have been absolutely ZERO controversy about it and maybe just a very small blurb of an article on page 12 at the bottom of the Gagzette! Remember when the Henderson Center was being planned and about to be constructed our State Government said there wasn't enough available $$$$ to construct it as originally planned, you know, with an air-conditioned arena, around 11 to 12 thousand seats, etc., etc. Yet roughly in the same time period, in one of the Jay-bird Rockefeller Administrations, somehow our same State Government minions "found" enough State funds to significantly expand Mountaineer Field up in the Hole. I've despised that slimy, tall carpetbagger POS from New Yawk ever since!!
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Very arrogant and a WVU supporter.
As are many in our state of 1.8 million. I'm sure this is just starting for Jim Justice and the future of the proposed baseball stadium at Marshall. Also, I can't believe that there was not more oversight on the BOG's previous purchase of the 24rd St property for the stadium for millions of taxpayer dollars. Later, it was discovered that the property was contaminated with old chemicals, and thus the cleanup cost would have been too great. Also, next time you initiate alcohol sales in a taxpayer funded school arena at Marshall, please perform due diligence about the legal ramifications regarding the structural safety measures present or absent at said arena. I'm a taxpayer and now I can't attend a game at this arena due to decreased capacity related to what should have been an easily corrected safety measure.
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As are many in our state of 1.8 million. I'm sure this is just starting for Jim Justice and the future of the proposed baseball stadium at Marshall. Also, I can't believe that there was not more oversight on the BOG's previous purchase of the 24rd St property for the stadium for millions of taxpayer dollars. Later, it was discovered that the property was contaminated with old chemicals, and thus the cleanup cost would have been too great. Also, next time you initiate alcohol sales in a taxpayer funded school arena at Marshall, please perform due diligence about the legal ramifications regarding the structural safety measures present or absent at said arena. I'm a taxpayer and now I can't attend a game at this arena due to decreased capacity related to what should have been an easily corrected safety measure.
Some information for you, the below article says the City of Huntington purchased the property. Sorry about you not being able to attend the basketball games. It might be a smart move to purchase season tickets for next year?
"HUNTINGTON ? A new baseball stadium for Marshall University became one huge step closer to reality Thursday with the announced purchase of land from the Flint Pigments Group.
Marshall and City of Huntington officials announced the $750,000 purchase, which took place Friday, during an event at the site on the north side of 5th Avenue and 24th Street. The first $500,000 used to buy the property came via Huntington's winnings from the America's Best Communities Competition in 2017. An additional $250,000 came from the Huntington Municipal Development Authority.
https://www.herald-dispatch.com/_zapp/marshall-announces-land-purchase-for-baseball-stadium/article_c7f88d90-3623-11e9-8532-13e3fea08baf.html
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Some information for you, the below article says the City of Huntington purchased the property. Sorry about you not being able to attend the basketball games. It might be a smart move to purchase season tickets for next year?
"HUNTINGTON ? A new baseball stadium for Marshall University became one huge step closer to reality Thursday with the announced purchase of land from the Flint Pigments Group.
Marshall and City of Huntington officials announced the $750,000 purchase, which took place Friday, during an event at the site on the north side of 5th Avenue and 24th Street. The first $500,000 used to buy the property came via Huntington's winnings from the America's Best Communities Competition in 2017. An additional $250,000 came from the Huntington Municipal Development Authority.
https://www.herald-dispatch.com/_zapp/marshall-announces-land-purchase-for-baseball-stadium/article_c7f88d90-3623-11e9-8532-13e3fea08baf.html
This was the old site, new site is north of 3rd avenue.
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no use of that $ was more of a waste than all the $ he spent giving away trinkets to bribe people to get a shot that did NOTHING to stop the SPREAD of the china virus -- THAT was the biggest waste of that $
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As are many in our state of 1.8 million. I'm sure this is just starting for Jim Justice and the future of the proposed baseball stadium at Marshall. Also, I can't believe that there was not more oversight on the BOG's previous purchase of the 24rd St property for the stadium for millions of taxpayer dollars. Later, it was discovered that the property was contaminated with old chemicals, and thus the cleanup cost would have been too great. Also, next time you initiate alcohol sales in a taxpayer funded school arena at Marshall, please perform due diligence about the legal ramifications regarding the structural safety measures present or absent at said arena. I'm a taxpayer and now I can't attend a game at this arena due to decreased capacity related to what should have been an easily corrected safety measure.
I think our AD at the time totally failed in his due diligence in everything about the process. Poorly thought out bid process, poor communication with the local utilities and lack of fundraising for the stadium project.
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This was the old site, new site is north of 3rd avenue.
You might want to go back and review the previous posts. We were talking about the original location of the park; the problems and the cost of the land.
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The baseball field might be the only thing to come out positive from Corona. The more info that comes out about Covid the worse the corruption is. I can say that I never liked government but now I have lost all faith and trust.
WVU has received so much money over the years that this is just a drop in the bucket.
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I'm a taxpayer and now I can't attend a game at this arena due to decreased capacity related to what should have been an easily corrected safety measure.
So you waited until the last two Sat night games sold out before you tried to get a ticket so you could complain?
You missed the previous 15 or so home games that were NOT sold out?
Better get tickets now for the games on the 16th and 18th or you could wait until they sell out so you can complain more.
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My understanding is that the $ is already appropriated and this legislative questioning is for potential future limitations on the Governor?s powers or ethics probes
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Eric Tarr makes disparaging remarks about Marshall on occasion.
Tarr and feather him.
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The baseball field might be the only thing to come out positive from Corona. The more info that comes out about Covid the worse the corruption is. I can say that I never liked government but now I have lost all faith and trust.
WVU has received so much money over the years that this is just a drop in the bucket.
So? we are talking about the current alleged mis-use of federal Covid relief funds by Governor Jim Justice and his administration. We will see. I hope an ethics probe on Justice is opened on this, as was suggested might happen by Marshall Mark.
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You need to team up with Nick Freidlin, Hessler and the other losers at the HD and write daily letters about how it's a waste of time and money. Do you get out of mommies basement much?
That?s a little harsh just because he has a different view, which I happen to share. Spending money on baseball is a loser for Marshall. Due to the timing of the college season, we will never be able to compete with southern teams in the sport. Talent will go where the don?t have to practice and play in winter weather or play the first half of the season on the road due to snow. Not our sport, never will be.
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That?s a little harsh just because he has a different view, which I happen to share. Spending money on baseball is a loser for Marshall. Due to the timing of the college season, we will never be able to compete with southern teams in the sport. Talent will go where the don?t have to practice and play in winter weather or play the first half of the season on the road due to snow. Not our sport, never will be.
We a special kind of indoor facility, there is no reason that great preparation can not take place; and for us to have a winning baseball program. They play baseball in the Big 10, schools much farther north than us, and the MAC, etc.
We can have a good program if we want one and are willing to invest, players will come, pros play in similar weather all over the country for their early part of their season.
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As are many in our state of 1.8 million. I'm sure this is just starting for Jim Justice and the future of the proposed baseball stadium at Marshall. Also, I can't believe that there was not more oversight on the BOG's previous purchase of the 24rd St property for the stadium for millions of taxpayer dollars. Later, it was discovered that the property was contaminated with old chemicals, and thus the cleanup cost would have been too great. Also, next time you initiate alcohol sales in a taxpayer funded school arena at Marshall, please perform due diligence about the legal ramifications regarding the structural safety measures present or absent at said arena. I'm a taxpayer and now I can't attend a game at this arena due to decreased capacity related to what should have been an easily corrected safety measure.
Sure you can attend a basketball game. Let me know, I'll give you a ticket. There are plenty available if one WANTS to go.
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That?s a little harsh just because he has a different view, which I happen to share. Spending money on baseball is a loser for Marshall. Due to the timing of the college season, we will never be able to compete with southern teams in the sport. Talent will go where the don?t have to practice and play in winter weather or play the first half of the season on the road due to snow. Not our sport, never will be.
The dude is a jerk. His posts are never constructive. Marshall can have a solid program with the right resources. Or JJ could have given the money to Steve Williams who would have spent it on opening up more drug houses.
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This state has given so much money to WVU it isn't even funny. Isn't there a state soda tax that directly funds WVU to the tune of something like $14 million a year? I hope this doesn't delay our stadium completion date.
I don't like baseball, and never could get into it as a kid. It just seems to slow of a sport for me. However, it is pretty huge across the country and even locally to an extent. There is enough talent within 3-4 hours of Huntington to build a pretty solid roster. Not to mention baseball is highly competitive in the SBC. It's not out of the realm of possibility to say that we can actually win a national title with the proper facilities in place, similar to what soccer has done.
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I realize most on here know what goes on in this state, but for those short sighted folks who need reminded, exhibit A.
https://ballparkdigest.com/201304186209/at-the-ballpark/future-ballparks/west-virginia-legislature-approves-morgantown-tif-funding
The primary difference between the two is tax dollars came from the State to support this and the Legislature got the glory, while the other came from the Feds and the Governor got the glory.
And as Herdmeister said, the Senate's review of this will have no effect on the funding for the baseball stadium (sorry to disappoint you little beau). This is about the Senate trying to get more control over the say in how the Governors spends money and Tarr's personal agenda against Justice.
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Correct, the important distinction with the Marshall donation is that these are federal COVID dollars and not State dollars. There is not much more the Legislature can do about this other than impeach Justice, and that ain't gonna happen.
Justice claims he could use these federal dollars to reimburse the State for COVID expenses already incurred in the WV Dept. of Corrections and Rehabilitation. That is probably correct. But rather than sending the dollars directly to the WV Dept. of Corrections and Rehabilitation, he sent them to his gubernatorial slush fund account, where they remain less his $10 million gift to Marshall. Counsel for Justice says this was all legal based on advice received from the accounting/consulting firm BDO.
Senator Tarr says his Finance Committee will send a letter to the U.S. Treasury Office of Inspector General requesting a review of Justice's handling of these COVID funds. Effectively, this will be in the feds hands now. I guess theoretically the U.S. Treasury could require the State of WV to repay these COVID funds at some point in the future if (and I say IF) they are determined to have been mishandled by Justice, but I doubt that would stop the ballpark project. Or we may never hear another word about this.
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If this money was going to WVU you wouldn't hear a peep.
Screw Tarr and screw WVU.