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Re: Dantoni admits building weak schedule
« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2022, 02:47:38 PM »
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  • No, but our best result in tourney is DD.  I'm confident we will have a very good year.  Only question in my mind is better than 2018 or not?


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    Agree. This team is much much deeper and especially inside. Andrew and Kinsey are playing their best ball right now. And Curfman is an assassin. I kind of like those that Pooh Pooh expectations. I'm sure the predictions will as well. Going to be good stuff!!
     
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    Re: Dantoni admits building weak schedule
    « Reply #26 on: October 02, 2022, 03:51:43 PM »
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  • No, but our best result in tourney is DD.  I'm confident we will have a very good year.  Only question in my mind is better than 2018 or not?


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    I'm not convinced we will be better this year until I see dramatic improvement

     
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    Re: Dantoni admits building weak schedule
    « Reply #27 on: October 02, 2022, 04:07:02 PM »
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  • I'm not convinced we will be better this year until I see dramatic improvement
    Well for some it takes a little longer.  I'm looking at current roster, film and past rosters so it's pretty easy to see.


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    Re: Dantoni admits building weak schedule
    « Reply #28 on: October 02, 2022, 04:15:49 PM »
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  • I'm not convinced we will be better this year until I see dramatic improvement

    Understood and I get it if you can't see the team and individuals. But this team is the most talented top to bottom he has had. But you will come around in time as will everyone else.
     

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    Re: Dantoni admits building weak schedule
    « Reply #29 on: October 02, 2022, 04:23:35 PM »
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  • Understood and I get it if you can't see the team and individuals. But this team is the most talented top to bottom he has had. But you will come around in time as will everyone else.

    I hope you and 2X are right

     
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    Re: Dantoni admits building weak schedule
    « Reply #30 on: October 02, 2022, 04:52:00 PM »
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  • I'm not convinced we will be better this year until I see dramatic improvement

    i agree.  although this team will not be last or any other year's team, there are good reasons to be skeptical while having hope. 
     
    maybe the staff will do a better job teaching fundamentals, D, shooting and finishing and real team ball- they have a few weeks to get it done.

    as far as predictions, i have no idea, just like last year's team had no clue!  fool me once, twice....
     

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    « Reply #31 on: October 02, 2022, 04:57:55 PM »
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  • every year DD will have a better team than the year before...yawn
     
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    « Reply #32 on: October 02, 2022, 05:08:27 PM »
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  • every year DD will have a better team than the year before...yawn

    Honestly I could care less what you or anyone else thinks. We will know soon enough and it's fun saving all these posts trashing and mocking practice reports. And the Dantoni blasters lol!! Cant wait!!!
     

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    « Reply #33 on: October 02, 2022, 05:12:52 PM »
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  • Honestly I could care less what you or anyone else thinks. We will know soon enough and it's fun saving all these posts trashing and mocking practice reports. And the Dantoni blasters lol!! Cant wait!!!

    its not just about you
     
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    « Reply #34 on: October 02, 2022, 05:14:49 PM »
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  • If this team doesn't win 22 games at a minimum with this schedule then he should not be renewed since he is on a 1 year contract.
     

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    « Reply #35 on: October 02, 2022, 05:26:19 PM »
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    Re: Dantoni admits building weak schedule
    « Reply #36 on: October 02, 2022, 05:27:44 PM »
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  • I hope you're right. I love DD, but I've seen some basketball fundamentals that I'm surprised he hasn't addressed. These are techniques that can and should be corrected.
    For example...


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    Re: Dantoni admits building weak schedule
    « Reply #37 on: October 02, 2022, 05:28:59 PM »
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  • If this team doesn't win 22 games at a minimum with this schedule then he should not be renewed since he is on a 1 year contract.

    It's a lock. And Doc should have won the disaster weak east every year but he didn't.
     

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    « Reply #38 on: October 02, 2022, 05:58:54 PM »
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    I will give one. The backside defense last year was bad in particular when other teams ran screen-and-roll. Other than OAK, the backside rotation on defense was horrendous. Most of the time the rotations were late or non-existent with some players.

    We also didn't switch very well on the on-ball screens. The switcher has to jump up into the ball and not let the dribbler have easy vision to pass to the roller.

    You may disagree. But the team defensive stats from last season tend to back me up.
     
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    « Reply #39 on: October 02, 2022, 06:05:59 PM »
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  • Honestly I could care less what you or anyone else thinks. We will know soon enough and it's fun saving all these posts trashing and mocking practice reports. And the Dantoni blasters lol!! Cant wait!!!

    Most of us enjoy the practice reports. I love D'Antoni and want nothing but success for Marshall basketball.

    But questioning some obvious problems from last year that started in November and were still in existence in February that never got fixed or watching some bad player development over the course of a season & then questioning that, is not a D'Antoni basher. We had defensive flaws last year that were very evident and many times the flow of the offense after 1 or 2 passes became stagnant on our offensive end.

    I hope we have improved significantly. We have to because it isn't easy to win night-in and night-out at any Division 1 level. I would love nothing more than a 20+ win season and a deep run in the Sun Belt Tournament.
     
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    « Reply #40 on: October 02, 2022, 06:07:39 PM »
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  • I will give one. The backside defense last year was bad in particular when other teams ran screen-and-roll. Other than OAK, the backside rotation on defense was horrendous. Most of the time the rotations were late or non-existent with some players.

    We also didn't switch very well on the on-ball screens. The switcher has to jump up into the ball and not let the dribbler have easy vision to pass to the roller.

    You may disagree. But the team defensive stats from last season tend to back me up.

    Those are great observations.
    There are several different ways to play on-the-ball pick and rolls. Whether you blitz, hedge hard or hedge and drop, the other three defenders must play their assignments. Just because you want to play run and gun offense doesn't mean that you completely ignore defense.
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    « Reply #41 on: October 02, 2022, 06:08:58 PM »
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  • I will give one. The backside defense last year was bad in particular when other teams ran screen-and-roll. Other than OAK, the backside rotation on defense was horrendous. Most of the time the rotations were late or non-existent with some players.

    We also didn't switch very well on the on-ball screens. The switcher has to jump up into the ball and not let the dribbler have easy vision to pass to the roller.

    You may disagree. But the team defensive stats from last season tend to back me up.

    And again that was last season. That is why the team will play this season with 4 new players in the top 8 rotation. Last year stunk and there was reasons for that and it's been talked about a lot. Part of it was Dannys fault and he admits that. This is a new team, new players, new season and new energy.
     
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    « Reply #42 on: October 02, 2022, 06:12:33 PM »
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  • Most of us enjoy the practice reports. I love D'Antoni and want nothing but success for Marshall basketball.

    But questioning some obvious problems from last year that started in November and were still in existence in February that never got fixed or watching some bad player development over the course of a season & then questioning that, is not a D'Antoni basher. We had defensive flaws last year that were very evident and many times the flow of the offense after 1 or 2 passes became stagnant on our offensive end.

    I hope we have improved significantly. We have to because it isn't easy to win night-in and night-out at any Division 1 level. I would love nothing more than a 20+ win season and a deep run in the Sun Belt Tournament.

    Didn't say you were a Dantoni basher. But if you don't think they are in this board then you are kidding yourself. I'll guarantee you one thing. It's going to be a fun, enjoyable and exciting product to watch this year.
     

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    « Reply #43 on: October 02, 2022, 08:20:42 PM »
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  • Says we need to get confidence by beating weak teams early beforewe face that daunting Sun Belt schedule.  That 12 win season really motivated him.  Not to get better, just to make the path to 16-17 wins easier. 

    https://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/marshall-basketball-wants-its-mojo-back/article_f7b0ebff-68f5-5180-ac9c-8db624fc446c.html

    The reality is those weak teams were beating us last year. If we play the same, we will get the same results.
     
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    « Reply #44 on: October 02, 2022, 08:28:07 PM »
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    free throws, shooting to quick off the dribble and not squaring up. Picking up the cutter to the basket, finding a man to box out once the ball goes up, etc..One thing that really jumped out at me, are the easy layups teams had against us. We were to soft inside and it showed how we got pushed around.
     
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    « Reply #45 on: October 02, 2022, 10:01:21 PM »
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  • I support Dan and every MU team, but glad Grassie didn't have this mentality, we'd have never won a National championship


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    « Reply #46 on: October 02, 2022, 10:10:38 PM »
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  • Let's just get there. Then we can play that big name everyone is clamoring for. Sometimes I think Marshall fans enjoy being miserable than just watching a fun exciting brand with the best freshman class he has brought in so far. These guys are a blast to watch. If these 3 freshman come on like expected, this team is going to finally be deep, skilled and long and have a lot of different combos for whatever is needed.

    So, the official basketball mantra of Marshall University Basketball is "We Play For FUN"??  Gawd, that surely will make Bobby Pruett shake his head in disbelief and wince!!  Maybe even downright CRY!!!  A lot of other REAL HERD FANS too!!
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    « Reply #47 on: October 02, 2022, 10:19:19 PM »
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    C'mon, Bison.  Pull your toboggan up above your eyes and you surely will see the vaunted D'Antoni "Matador" man-to-man "Defense".  Others have been observing it for about 8 seasons now, often exclaiming "WTF"!!!
     

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    Re: Dantoni admits building weak schedule
    « Reply #48 on: October 02, 2022, 10:36:01 PM »
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  • I support Dan and every MU team, but glad Grassie didn't have this mentality, we'd have never won a National championship

    We only have one baller coach at Marshall

    Grassie
     
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    « Reply #49 on: October 03, 2022, 07:08:18 AM »
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  • Does strength of schedule matter when only one team is ever going to get a bid?
    No, it doesn't.
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